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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 21:45:03 GMT -5
So @diobolic , you are saying Prince Andrew doesnt have a leg to stand on? No, I'm saying he is fighting an uphill battle getting the case thrown out, and his lawyers will most likely have to do battle in court. But I don't think the Queen mum will alow that and will demand he settle out of court. The queen mum is dead. They may sacrafice Andrew.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 21:45:49 GMT -5
So @diobolic , you are saying Prince Andrew doesnt have a leg to stand on? good one!
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Post by deyana on Jan 5, 2022 22:48:13 GMT -5
A woman who says she was sexually trafficked to Britain’s Prince Andrew by Jeffrey Epstein accepted $500,000 in 2009 to settle her lawsuit against the American millionaire and anyone else “who could have been included as a potential defendant,” according to a court record unsealed Monday. linkYeah I heard this too. I thought once sealed that was it. But I guess not. It's good it's unsealed though, we need to know all the ins and outs of this. I guess half million dollars was not enough, she's probably looking at many millions if she wins this. Epstein paid $500k to Prince Andrew's accuser
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2022 11:05:16 GMT -5
Apparently her lawyer is asking for a new trial. Somehow they found out that one of the jurors was sexually abused.
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Post by sb on Jan 7, 2022 9:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by deyana on Jan 7, 2022 10:22:45 GMT -5
Apparently her lawyer is asking for a new trial. Somehow they found out that one of the jurors was sexually abused. Oh wow, reality is stranger than fiction as they say...
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 7, 2022 10:25:17 GMT -5
This is good, I don't think Maxwell should be in prison while the big dogs are out free. I figured something was up with that jury- that would clearly be a mis-trial. One jury member was bias and he pushed the other jury members to go along with him, and I heard something about a 2nd jury member who did something un-ethical while as a juror. Personally I'm against the jury system I think it's flawed, I'd favor a panel of lawyers, panel of law students or professional juries who go around to court room to court room hearing cases, or even something like a 5-judge panel. A jury was fine 150 years ago when cases were simple many cases today are complex.. Today it's possible to have some sort of computer decide innocence or guilt by weighing the facts. What really soured me on the jury system was the O.J Trial he was clearly guilty but the jury had it in them to vote not-guilty no matter what, the O.J. jury had their minds made up from day 1 IMO and just played along pretending to be objective and interested in the case. They used the glove that wouldn't fit as their excuse for "not guilty".
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Post by deyana on Jan 7, 2022 10:37:16 GMT -5
I hope whatever was behind Epstein's wheeling and dealing and trafficking come out and all those that participated are held accountable. Seems that it could be favors exchanged? You give me an underage girl and I'll give you this account or business opportunity? And so forth. Where does it stop though? I mean how far does this kind of corruption and rich boys club go?
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Post by deyana on Jan 7, 2022 10:41:04 GMT -5
Poor whiddle Prince Andrew is having to sell his itty bitty holiday home ( or one of them anyway). The queen ain't helping him with this one! And he has legal fees mounting up. I can almost cry. Poor baby. such hardships he has to endure. Prince Andrew to sell $32M Swiss chalet as Queen not paying legal fees
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 7, 2022 10:49:51 GMT -5
There's an old saying dunno who thunk it up, but it goes something like this: If your guilty of the crime ask for a jury trial it's your best chance to go free, if your innocent of a crime as for a judge trial.
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Post by sb on Jan 7, 2022 11:08:41 GMT -5
I hope whatever was behind Epstein's wheeling and dealing and trafficking come out and all those that participated are held accountable. Seems that it could be favors exchanged? You give me an underage girl and I'll give you this account or business opportunity? And so forth. Where does it stop though? I mean how far does this kind of corruption and rich boys club go? It's about leverage Dey, and power. If I can film you in a compromising act with a minor then I can pretty much have you do what I want you to do. It's that simple. The CIA has been doing this sort of thing for decades.
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Post by deyana on Jan 7, 2022 11:17:10 GMT -5
I thought it must be something like that, sb. And we thought this sort of thing happened just in the movies. dp57d8KTeEZjIAgBaB9L Why can't people just live thier lives honestly and above board? How were these poeple raised? I mean, the first thing we start to teach our kids is right from wrong. I guess the rich and connected must beleive they can by pass that lesson.
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Post by sb on Jan 7, 2022 11:29:04 GMT -5
And we thought this sort of thing happened just in the movies. Yes, there's a depiction of this in the Snowden movie. It's one of the things that supposedly made Edward Snowden release secrets and go on the run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 11:32:53 GMT -5
I hope whatever was behind Epstein's wheeling and dealing and trafficking come out and all those that participated are held accountable. Seems that it could be favors exchanged? You give me an underage girl and I'll give you this account or business opportunity? And so forth. Where does it stop though? I mean how far does this kind of corruption and rich boys club go? It's about leverage Dey, and power. If I can film you in a compromising act with a minor then I can pretty much have you do what I want you to do. It's that simple. The CIA has been doing this sort of thing for decades. Link to CIA doing this please.
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Post by sb on Jan 7, 2022 11:36:34 GMT -5
It's about leverage Dey, and power. If I can film you in a compromising act with a minor then I can pretty much have you do what I want you to do. It's that simple. The CIA has been doing this sort of thing for decades. Link to CIA doing this please. Oh sure, it's probably in their mission statement.
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Post by deyana on Jan 7, 2022 11:45:10 GMT -5
And we thought this sort of thing happened just in the movies. Yes, there's a depiction of this in the Snowden movie. It's one of the things that supposedly made Edward Snowden release secrets and go on the run. Ghislaine Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell was a shady character as well, he stole many millions from pension funds and was disgraced and lost everything. By all accounts his life was pretty much a lie. Even down to his posh accent. He was born dirt poor. I guess Ghislaine learned from the best.
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Post by hank on Jan 7, 2022 11:59:00 GMT -5
Apparently her lawyer is asking for a new trial. Somehow they found out that one of the jurors was sexually abused. That's what the news reported this, he lied about not being abused on his jury appointment and then he instructed the jury about being a victim. He then told all this to the news in Europe and now he's in big big trouble. btw .......... congrats on being Poster Of The Year, pomme. I obviously didn't vote for you but congrats anyways!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 13:27:46 GMT -5
Congratulations @pomme,
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Post by Flying High on Jan 18, 2022 22:17:43 GMT -5
Maxwell to reveal names of '8 John Does'
Donald Trump is said to the one of them...
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Post by Flying High on Jan 18, 2022 22:24:21 GMT -5
Why the glasses??
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