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Post by 🦍MAXX>ⓤ on Oct 4, 2022 13:15:03 GMT -5
6 ex-Colton High School football players allege sexual abuse by former coach's daughter Six former Colton High School football players in San Bernardino County are suing the Colton Joint Unified School District and its former athletic trainer, alleging that she sexually abused them more than a decade ago. The men, referred to as John Does in the lawsuit filed Friday, allege that during the 2000s, when they were varsity football players, they were sexually abused by the school's athletic trainer, Tiffany Gordon. She is the daughter of the school's former head football coach and athletic director, Harold Strauss, who died in 2019. Gordon began working for the district around 2001 and most recently was the athletic director at Grand Terrace High School. They also allege that other members of the football team, the players' parents and the staff knew about Gordon's alleged misconduct between 2002 and 2006 and that the school district failed to report and investigate the alleged abuse. "Despite rampant rumors surrounding Gordon’s misconduct, CJUSD knowingly, intentionally, willfully, deliberately, negligently, and/or recklessly allowed Gordon to continue abusing Colton High School’s varsity football players, including plaintiffs," according to the lawsuit."In doing so, defendants fostered a pervasive and hostile environment that utterly disregarded the rights and safety of minor athletes who were entrusted to CJUSD." www.yahoo.com/news/6-former-colton-high-school-215554768.html
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Post by 🦍MAXX>ⓤ on Oct 4, 2022 13:15:41 GMT -5
I can only imagine how awful that must have been...
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Post by Springschick on Oct 4, 2022 16:48:08 GMT -5
So child molestation is okay if the victim is a teenager boy and perpetrator an adult woman, but not when the victim is a teenager girl and the perp is an adult male?
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Post by apple on Oct 4, 2022 17:09:39 GMT -5
So child molestation is okay if the victim is a teenager boy and perpetrator an adult woman, but not when the victim is a teenager girl and the perp is an adult male? Seems like it. Remember Mary Kay Letourneau? She went to prison, then married the boy when he was able to and I believe they had children together. They were together until she died.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 4, 2022 19:12:42 GMT -5
So child molestation is okay if the victim is a teenager boy and perpetrator an adult woman, but not when the victim is a teenager girl and the perp is an adult male? Seems like it. Remember Mary Kay Letourneau? She went to prison, then married the boy when he was able to and I believe they had children together. They were together until she died. Yup. Remember that case well. He was 13 when they first "got together".
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Post by Springschick on Oct 4, 2022 21:40:16 GMT -5
So child molestation is okay if the victim is a teenager boy and perpetrator an adult woman, but not when the victim is a teenager girl and the perp is an adult male? Didn't say that. Your presenting a false dichotomy. How so? Underaged teen, adult predator. Where is the false dichotomy?
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Post by Springschick on Oct 4, 2022 22:11:56 GMT -5
How so? Underaged teen, adult predator. Where is the false dichotomy? Because I thought they didn't suffer horribly, doesn't mean I thought it was ok. It's not. Would you think they suffered horribly if they were cheerleaders being molested by a male advisor? Contrary to what might be popular belief, males suffer emotionally from being sexually assaulted by females.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 7:13:18 GMT -5
Would you think they suffered horribly if they were cheerleaders being molested by a male advisor? Contrary to what might be popular belief, males suffer emotionally from being sexually assaulted by females. Were they assaulted ? The article refers to the varsity players in the lawsuit. According to the article, yes. Sexual abuse is a form of sexual assault.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 7:29:47 GMT -5
According to the article, yes. Sexual abuse is a form of sexual assault. The article seems to be intermixing assault and abuse as one definition. Abuse being not of the age to give consent in this case, versus assault, being forced physically. If consent cannot be legally granted, the touching is not permissable.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 7:32:42 GMT -5
Not to mention the inequality of the relationship, with one party being in a position of power over the other.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 7:40:19 GMT -5
If consent cannot be legally granted, the touching is not permissable. As a point of law, no it isn't. My original post on this article was; " Those poor football players, they must of suffered horribly. Nothing some money won't fix."I still stand by that. They wouldn't have repeatedly kept going to private places with her if they didn't want. Abuse victims frequently go along with their abusers. You many think it had no effect on what I am assuming you feel were horny teenaged boys, but you really have no way of knowing that, now do you? Would you feel that way if the victim was a "willing" female? Nothing to see here, move along?
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 7:43:27 GMT -5
Abuse victims frequently go along with their abusers. You many think it had no effect on what I am assuming you feel were horny teenaged boys, but you really have no way of knowing that, now do you? Same as you have no way of knowing what they wanted. Nor do you, but you seem willing to write it off as no big deal.
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 8:31:45 GMT -5
Nor do you, but you seem willing to write it off as no big deal. As you seemed to stop using assault that last post. That's where my concern is much lessened when we're talking about 17/18 year old varsity football players. The situation wasn't that horrible for them, for all the given reasons. Now ? $$ is the concern. Sorry, I didn't realize I was required to use the word assault in every post. I will try harder next time.
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Post by hank on Oct 5, 2022 10:36:52 GMT -5
What is it with women in their 20's and teenage boys? You hear more and more about it every day, and then you find out it has been going on for decades.
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Post by apple on Oct 5, 2022 10:42:47 GMT -5
What is it with women in their 20's and teenage boys? You hear more and more about it every day, and then you find out it has been going on for decades. Women in this study often described the importance of prioritizing their own pleasure during sex. Women said they liked dating younger men, because, from their experience, younger partners were more motivated to provide pleasure and satisfy them before they satisfied themselves. link
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Post by hank on Oct 5, 2022 10:51:47 GMT -5
What is it with women in their 20's and teenage boys? You hear more and more about it every day, and then you find out it has been going on for decades. Women in this study often described the importance of prioritizing their own pleasure during sex. Women said they liked dating younger men, because, from their experience, younger partners were more motivated to provide pleasure and satisfy them before they satisfied themselves. linkI can understand that, and it also holds true for older men with ladies in their 20s and etc. But a teenage boy is something different, their experience will only last for seconds or minutes at best. I'm sure there are exceptions, but for most teenage boy's their stamina hasn't had a chance to develop yet.
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Post by apple on Oct 5, 2022 11:39:27 GMT -5
Women in this study often described the importance of prioritizing their own pleasure during sex. Women said they liked dating younger men, because, from their experience, younger partners were more motivated to provide pleasure and satisfy them before they satisfied themselves. linkI can understand that, and it also holds true for older men with ladies in their 20s and etc. But a teenage boy is something different, their experience will only last for seconds or minutes at best. I'm sure there are exceptions, but for most teenage boy's their stamina hasn't had a chance to develop yet. I disagree. lol
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Post by Springschick on Oct 5, 2022 12:59:58 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't realize I was required to use the word assault in every post. I will try harder next time. I'll try to make a bigger deal out of the football team banging the coaches daughter, as a return favor. I can do feigned outrage. As long as either the football team or the coaches daughter is in a position of trust and/or authority, or someone is under the age of consent,that would be fine.
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Post by hank on Oct 5, 2022 13:57:56 GMT -5
I can understand that, and it also holds true for older men with ladies in their 20s and etc. But a teenage boy is something different, their experience will only last for seconds or minutes at best. I'm sure there are exceptions, but for most teenage boy's their stamina hasn't had a chance to develop yet. I disagree. lol Was your nickname trigger?
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Post by apple on Oct 5, 2022 14:02:41 GMT -5
Now how would you know this... I don't think you understand what I disagree with...
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