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Post by Justbec on Jan 3, 2023 12:14:40 GMT -5
I don't see any evidence of editing. Then look up the actual speech he made. |
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Post by sb on Jan 3, 2023 13:29:33 GMT -5
Like what? What freedom has President Biden taken away from you? Republucans have been the book burners and the ones actually taking AWAY freedoms from what I have seen. Just because he hasn't been successful yet doesn't mean that he isn't working toward that goal. One example: he has stated quite plainly that he wants to cripple and maybe even destroy our right of self protection. Another example: His support of transgender ideology removes the freedom of women and girls to be safe in locker rooms and restrooms (yes, I know "transgender does not equal rapist"... but... rapist and/or pervert does equal someone that would take advantage of being able to claim "I'm transgender" and attack actual female people (Google "school attacked bathroom transgender" for many reports of such attacks). They've demanded that Twitter (and probably Google and Facebook) accounts be suspended or removed. They conspired with social media to censor posts. They've removed books from Amazon or hidden them so that they can't be found. They've trampled on the Constitutional rights of Jan 6 detainees: nypost.com/2022/11/22/jan-6-defendant-christopher-worrell-reportedly-denied-cancer-treatment-in-prison/They've attacked our second amendment right to defend ourselves. Not a pretty picture so far. |
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Post by sb on Jan 3, 2023 13:31:22 GMT -5
Then look up the actual speech he made. I agree with him. I support open borders. He does not. Do you support open borders for all countries and not just the U.S.? |
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Post by Justbec on Jan 3, 2023 13:42:33 GMT -5
I agree with him. I support open borders. He does not. Define open borders. Do you support anyone just coming across with no security check? Do you support no guards at the border? Do you support anyone being able to cross carrying anything they want? No one has to apply for a green card they can just come over illegally and go where they want? |
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Post by sb on Jan 3, 2023 14:16:18 GMT -5
Define open borders. Do you support anyone just coming across with no security check? Do you support no guards at the border? Do you support anyone being able to cross carrying anything they want? No one has to apply for a green card they can just come over illegally and go where they want? I support an orderly process for immigration. Criminals should not be let in nor people who do not support our free way of life. But if they can be productive citizens they should have the chance to do so. So there still needs to be some kind of vetting process to keep out the undesirables, correct? How would you deal with the fact that the vast majority of countries would never reciprocate? |
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Post by Justbec on Jan 3, 2023 14:28:00 GMT -5
I support an orderly process for immigration. Criminals should not be let in nor people who do not support our free way of life. But if they can be productive citizens they should have the chance to do so. So basically you support what we have had until the last 2 years. Apply to come into the U.S. legally and wait outside the country until you are accepted. |
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Post by Justbec on Jan 3, 2023 14:31:25 GMT -5
US policy has not changed and no, anyone that wants in other than those groups I mentioned should be allowed to come in. No waiting. Then how do you determine who supports or free way of life and who is going to be productive? |
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Post by sb on Jan 3, 2023 15:06:01 GMT -5
Then how do you determine who supports or free way of life and who is going to be productive? Background checks. Known terrorists and others advocating overthrow of our system would not be permitted to enter. Studies show most immigrants do become productive citizens. And if they don't we should not give them any reason to stay. Of course I am only talking about able bodied people. The old and infirm would need to be sponsored. So again, we're talking about a vetting process. That's fine with me. What we have now is an abomination. |
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Post by Justbec on Jan 3, 2023 15:17:58 GMT -5
I should have also mentioned denying people entry for health reasons is entirely justifiable as well. That is what Title 42 is SUPPOSED to be about but that was a bogus excuse. The Biden administration did not test ANYONE for Covid or anything else as they came across. So yes, anyone crossing should be tested for communicable diseases. Background checks. Known terrorists and others advocating overthrow of our system would not be permitted to enter. Studies show most immigrants do become productive citizens. And if they don't we should not give them any reason to stay. Of course I am only talking about able bodied people. The old and infirm would need to be sponsored. I would be fine with that as long as we had some way of knowing where they were. Some kind of ID or green card. |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 3, 2023 23:39:17 GMT -5
The full context however wasn't "don't come illegally"... it was "don't come right now"(because at the time we were still in hyper-pandemic mode)."Now is not the time to come" is literally on the crawl of the frozen "waiting to play" image! It's ok when video is edited in the Dems favor. LOL Well... THEY think it is anyway. |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 3, 2023 23:40:14 GMT -5
It's ok when video is edited in the Dems favor. LOL I don't see any evidence of editing. Then you weren't looking. The edits seemed pretty obvious to me. Want me to watch it again and get the time codes for you? |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 3, 2023 23:41:39 GMT -5
Just because he hasn't been successful yet doesn't mean that he isn't working toward that goal. One example: he has stated quite plainly that he wants to cripple and maybe even destroy our right of self protection. Another example: His support of transgender ideology removes the freedom of women and girls to be safe in locker rooms and restrooms (yes, I know "transgender does not equal rapist"... but... rapist and/or pervert does equal someone that would take advantage of being able to claim "I'm transgender" and attack actual female people (Google "school attacked bathroom transgender" for many reports of such attacks). They've demanded that Twitter (and probably Google and Facebook) accounts be suspended or removed. They conspired with social media to censor posts. They've removed books from Amazon or hidden them so that they can't be found. They've trampled on the Constitutional rights of Jan 6 detainees: nypost.com/2022/11/22/jan-6-defendant-christopher-worrell-reportedly-denied-cancer-treatment-in-prison/They've attacked our second amendment right to defend ourselves. Not a pretty picture so far. Those too of course. My two wasn't meant to be "a complete list"... it was just what you might call "a starter pack". |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 3, 2023 23:43:24 GMT -5
Define open borders. Do you support anyone just coming across with no security check? Do you support no guards at the border? Do you support anyone being able to cross carrying anything they want? No one has to apply for a green card they can just come over illegally and go where they want? I support an orderly process for immigration. Criminals should not be let in nor people who do not support our free way of life. But if they can be productive citizens they should have the chance to do so. You do know that that's the exact opposite of the "open borders" that you just previously said that you support... right? |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 5, 2023 0:07:06 GMT -5
Then you weren't looking. The edits seemed pretty obvious to me. Want me to watch it again and get the time codes for you? sure 33.5 Plus what they left off BEFORE their snippet and AFTER it. |
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 5, 2023 23:41:16 GMT -5
33.5 Plus what they left off BEFORE their snippet and AFTER it. Which was what exactly? The edit points you asked for, that you couldn't find yourself. |
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 6, 2023 11:04:58 GMT -5
I agree they want to destroy America and the funding is likely coming from Americas enemies out side the country, funding to destroy our energy supply, the green energy push, without energy a nation is weak, the use of the "climate change" to advance the agenda is all part of the plan. George Soros is dumping in tons of money to fund such groups and agendas. The open borders are also part to destroy America.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 7, 2023 0:19:41 GMT -5
The edit points you asked for, that you couldn't find yourself. That's not the kind of editing I was talking about. It was the kind I was talking about... and you asked for them. |
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