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Post by deyana on May 23, 2024 20:12:28 GMT -5
I don't agree, RP. You are very wrong, I see climate change in action. I see it change year after year. I have never seen anything like what I experiencing and seeing happening around the world.
This is an conversation whereon we could go around and around in circles and get nowhere.
So I'm just going to opt out of this one.
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Post by Dr. JMA23 on May 24, 2024 8:44:16 GMT -5
Considering climate history, our current global temperature could stand to go up a bit, and it will. Seems a bit disingenuous to refer to moving out of the last ice age with the term "opening the gates of hell". Scroll right for current year. ![](https://s10.gifyu.com/images/SfjeZ.jpg) Edit; Using this accepted temperature graph, I noticed that we are now just returned to the initial climb out temperature from the end of the last ice age a approximately 10,000 years ago. In order to return to coolhouse temperatures between the hottest and coldest, we need to be about 4°C higher than we are now. Note the U shaped average of the last 10,000 years.
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Post by deyana on May 24, 2024 18:53:36 GMT -5
hmm... that is an interesting chart, Dr. JMA23, The thing is there are many other charts that tell us and "prove" to us that Global warming and irreversible Global warming is a real thing. This very Industrialized world is playing havoc with our planet.
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Post by Dr. JMA23 on May 26, 2024 10:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. JMA23 on Jun 3, 2024 13:56:19 GMT -5
Still seems to be a bit over the top to use the term "opened the gates of hell" for a temperature average that's 4°C below coolhouse, by both sides of the argument.
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Post by sb on Jun 4, 2024 13:32:06 GMT -5
“humanity has opened the gates of hell.” Looked outside today but I didn't see any hell much less any open gates. My weather app says it's 76f degrees out there. If this is hell I'm for it.
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Post by romaniprincess on Jun 7, 2024 17:49:01 GMT -5
I don't agree, RP. You are very wrong, I see climate change in action. I see it change year after year. I have never seen anything like what I experiencing and seeing happening around the world. This is an conversation whereon we could go around and around in circles and get nowhere. So I'm just going to opt out of this one. A pity because it's always a good idea to be openindrd. I've studied this subject for years and too many people keep confusing weather and climate. Let's look at some facts. The Antarctic ice is increasing. There are fewer hurricanes than usual. The climate was hotter before industrialisation There's an invariant relation with solar activity and temperature. The ecofascists have their own agenda- to enslave and impoverish most of us. They are enemies of the people and enemies of life. As the Russian poet Voznesensky said,"afraid of technology? Very well, go back to the caves then."
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Post by deyana on Jun 8, 2024 21:50:28 GMT -5
I just don't know what more I can add without me looking like I am just repeating myself over and over again. A pity because it's always a good idea to be openindrd. I'm open minded, and I still see we are heading for a climate disaster, in fact it is already here in some places.
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Post by romaniprincess on Jun 14, 2024 19:40:48 GMT -5
I don't accept that extreme weather is the same as climate change and nor do meteorologists.
For what it's worth the facts don't support the global warming claims.
But anyway I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
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Post by sb on Jun 17, 2024 12:35:15 GMT -5
I don't accept that extreme weather is the same as climate change and nor do meteorologists. For what it's worth the facts don't support the global warming claims. But anyway I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I would agree to the extent that the facts do not support the idea of a global warming crisis or that the CO2 generated by human activity contributes in any significant way.
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Post by Dr. JMA23 on Jun 18, 2024 7:43:35 GMT -5
I don't accept that extreme weather is the same as climate change and nor do meteorologists. For what it's worth the facts don't support the global warming claims. But anyway I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I would agree to the extent that the facts do not support the idea of a global warming crisis or that the CO2 generated by human activity contributes in any significant way.You are quite correct, It doesn't. Controlling the output of carcinogens is a worthwhile effort. Carbon isn't a carcinogen, it's plant food.
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Post by mrright on Jun 18, 2024 15:42:21 GMT -5
so what was your part in humanity opening the gates of hell?
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Post by deyana on Jun 22, 2024 0:23:32 GMT -5
We all play our part in the global warming crises. It's how industry works and how people live nowadays.
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