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Post by justme on Feb 3, 2024 12:19:22 GMT -5
I agree with most of his messaging about how society, or men in general, view women. I don't agree with the reference of not allowing male children to play with dolls as the "reason" for such treatment of women. If parents are doing their job, male children can play with dolls and not have "that" view.
My one brother played with dolls. His favorite one he named "Jimmy" even though it was a baby female doll. My mother made sure his views were not as the video describes and he is, to this day, exceptionally respectful of women.
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 12:43:03 GMT -5
You are both lying and stop telling lies about me. I post all sorts of threads and discussion here from cooking to Dear abby to the recent religious thread and so forth. So I would appreciate you retracting your lie. Ya okay, I am sorry. Sorry you have not found a way to politicize cooking or Dear Abby. So you do agree that Jesus was a liberal? I agree that Jesus was a Liberal AND a conservative and that he is both but yet neither.
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 12:43:55 GMT -5
I agree with most of his messaging about how society, or men in general, view women. I don't agree with the reference of not allowing male children to play with dolls as the "reason" for such treatment of women. If parents are doing their job, male children can play with dolls and not have "that" view. My one brother played with dolls. His favorite one he named "Jimmy" even though it was a baby female doll. My mother made sure his views were not as the video describes and he is, to this day, exceptionally respectful of women. Yeah don't get the anger about dolls. Are women objectifying children to play with baby dolls? Seems a strange tirade.
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Post by justme on Feb 3, 2024 12:46:29 GMT -5
I find society all to willing to give themselves a pass rather than hold themselves accountable. It's just so much easier to blame an inanimate object, or someone else.
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 13:49:18 GMT -5
Ya okay, I am sorry. Sorry you have not found a way to politicize cooking or Dear Abby. So you do agree that Jesus was a liberal? I agree that Jesus was a Liberal AND a conservative and that he is both but yet neither. What part of the teachings of Jesus tells you he was a conservative? Assuming you didn't know him personally.
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 13:56:21 GMT -5
I find society all to willing to give themselves a pass rather than hold themselves accountable. It's just so much easier to blame an inanimate object, or someone else. I find society only willing to read what they want to hear over what's actually stated. Or in this case you heard what you believe was stated over what was actually stated. He stated, and you didn't hear, it wasn't about the playing with dolls, but the teaching of his boys. And that any playing with dolls would only come after knowing the difference between dolls and women. Did you not hear that?
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Post by justme on Feb 3, 2024 14:57:39 GMT -5
I find society all to willing to give themselves a pass rather than hold themselves accountable. It's just so much easier to blame an inanimate object, or someone else. I find society only willing to read what they want to hear over what's actually stated. Or in this case you heard what you believe was stated over what was actually stated. He stated, and you didn't hear, it wasn't about the playing with dolls, but the teaching of his boys. And that any playing with dolls would only come after knowing the difference between dolls and women. Did you not hear that? I actually heard every word, twice, as I listened to it twice. I was willing to continue the discussion after addressing one or two points in my post but given your attitude towards me, a woman, I think I'll decline to discuss further anything regarding this video with you. Enjoy your day!
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 15:21:40 GMT -5
I agree that Jesus was a Liberal AND a conservative and that he is both but yet neither. What part of the teachings of Jesus tells you he was a conservative? Assuming you didn't know him personally. oh would you like to discuss that? Woman at the well. Go and Sin No More. For starters….
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 18:15:43 GMT -5
I find society only willing to read what they want to hear over what's actually stated. Or in this case you heard what you believe was stated over what was actually stated. He stated, and you didn't hear, it wasn't about the playing with dolls, but the teaching of his boys. And that any playing with dolls would only come after knowing the difference between dolls and women. Did you not hear that? I actually heard every word, twice, as I listened to it twice. I was willing to continue the discussion after addressing one or two points in my post but given your attitude towards me, a woman, I think I'll decline to discuss further anything regarding this video with you. Enjoy your day! I'm not sure how one reads an attitude, but the choice is yours. Just know that no disrespect, or attitude, was intended. I do tend to talk direct and, in a FB world of likes and happy emojis it's not always received well. Should I have to change for basic discussions? Maybe... I will try to speak less direct and with more pleases and TYs. Maybe this will help.
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 18:22:40 GMT -5
What part of the teachings of Jesus tells you he was a conservative? Assuming you didn't know him personally. oh would you like to discuss that? Woman at the well. Go and Sin No More. For starters…. I would love to discuss that, but doesn't that support the concept of him being a liberal and not a conservative?
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 18:33:00 GMT -5
oh would you like to discuss that? Woman at the well. Go and Sin No More. For starters…. I would love to discuss that, but doesn't that support the concept of him being a liberal and not a conservative? No. Because liberalism would say, nothing wrong with committing adultery and living unmarried. Are you gonna play the obtuse game now too? Is there a virus going on? Might be time to put on a mask. That is absolutely what a Conservative would say. Go and sin NO MORE. Since the left doesn't believe in any sexual sins whatsoever, then it's most certainly a conservative, right wing point of view
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 18:51:43 GMT -5
I would love to discuss that, but doesn't that support the concept of him being a liberal and not a conservative? No. Because liberalism would say, nothing wrong with committing adultery and living unmarried. Are you gonna play the obtuse game now too? Is there a virus going on? Might be time to put on a mask. That is absolutely what a Conservative would say. Go and sin NO MORE. Since the left doesn't believe in any sexual sins whatsoever, then it's most certainly a conservative, right wing point of view Oh so the way Christians today hold countless affairs and marriages against Trump and condemn them that has had one wife without affairs.(Obama) Although Biden is a better man as well. Got it...
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 18:57:40 GMT -5
No. Because liberalism would say, nothing wrong with committing adultery and living unmarried. Are you gonna play the obtuse game now too? Is there a virus going on? Might be time to put on a mask. That is absolutely what a Conservative would say. Go and sin NO MORE. Since the left doesn't believe in any sexual sins whatsoever, then it's most certainly a conservative, right wing point of view Oh so the way Christians today hold countless affairs and marriages against Trump and condemn them that has had one wife without affairs.(Obama) Although Biden is a better man as well. Got it... I thought you wanted to discuss if Jesus was liberal or conservative? As for the flaws of mankind, that doesn't negate what is Biblically right or wrong which is where this conversation was leading.
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 3, 2024 19:13:46 GMT -5
Oh so the way Christians today hold countless affairs and marriages against Trump and condemn them that has had one wife without affairs.(Obama) Although Biden is a better man as well. Got it... I thought you wanted to discuss if Jesus was liberal or conservative? As for the flaws of mankind, that doesn't negate what is Biblically right or wrong which is where this conversation was leading. I think I pretty well just showed you that in today's world Jesus would be a liberal and in the story of go and sin no more, conservatives would be the samaritan.
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 3, 2024 19:23:35 GMT -5
I thought you wanted to discuss if Jesus was liberal or conservative? As for the flaws of mankind, that doesn't negate what is Biblically right or wrong which is where this conversation was leading. I think I pretty well just showed you that in today's world Jesus would be a liberal and in the story of go and sin no more, conservatives would be the samaritan. No you didn't show anything. I showed you the words of Jesus, go and sin no more to the woman committing adultery. Just because Christians or others commit adultery doesn't negate what Jesus said. And a standard doesn't cease to exist if someone fails to meet the standard. Liberals tell people to carry on sexually however they please. Jesus has not and never said that. So, he's most certainly NOT a liberal in this instance.
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Post by apple on Feb 3, 2024 20:14:06 GMT -5
I would love to discuss that, but doesn't that support the concept of him being a liberal and not a conservative? No. Because liberalism would say, nothing wrong with committing adultery and living unmarried. Are you gonna play the obtuse game now too? Is there a virus going on? Might be time to put on a mask. That is absolutely what a Conservative would say. Go and sin NO MORE. Since the left doesn't believe in any sexual sins whatsoever, then it's most certainly a conservative, right wing point of view The Adulteress and Jesus One day, the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees wanted to set a trap for Jesus so they could humiliate him in public. They executed this plan by bringing in a woman whom they claim was "caught in the act of adultery" and asking Jesus whether she should be stoned in accordance with the Law of Moses. This is a familiar combination of sex, a woman, public disgrace and a double standard. The woman was used as a pawn in a power play to discredit Jesus. Instead of giving them a simple yes or no answer, Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. Why was he looking down on the ground? What was he writing? Then Jesus stood up and said "Let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone! "(John 8 verses 6-7)
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 4, 2024 7:54:47 GMT -5
I think I pretty well just showed you that in today's world Jesus would be a liberal and in the story of go and sin no more, conservatives would be the Samaritan. No you didn't show anything. I showed you the words of Jesus, go and sin no more to the woman committing adultery. Just because Christians or others commit adultery doesn't negate what Jesus said. And a standard doesn't cease to exist if someone fails to meet the standard. Liberals tell people to carry on sexually however they please. Jesus has not and never said that. So, he's most certainly NOT a liberal in this instance. I am not just saying this to you, but all people of religions, and not just Christianity. In the story of the Samaritan at the well, when Jesus says go and sin no more, it was not code for finding some orange man that regularly practices these sins and prop him up to be the guiding example for all of our free society. His (Jesus) message was don't do that sin anymore and go repent. Trump when asked if he had asked for forgiveness says he never done anything wrong. So, in the story of the Samaritan at the well, Jesus would be closer to being a liberal than that of today's conservative. That's just reality. My message for everyone is not to just read the good book, but seek to understand it.
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 4, 2024 8:24:41 GMT -5
No you didn't show anything. I showed you the words of Jesus, go and sin no more to the woman committing adultery. Just because Christians or others commit adultery doesn't negate what Jesus said. And a standard doesn't cease to exist if someone fails to meet the standard. Liberals tell people to carry on sexually however they please. Jesus has not and never said that. So, he's most certainly NOT a liberal in this instance. I am not just saying this to you, but all people of religions, and not just Christianity. In the story of the Samaritan at the well, when Jesus says go and sin no more, it was not code for finding some orange man that regularly practices these sins and prop him up to be the guiding example for all of our free society. His (Jesus) message was don't do that sin anymore and go repent. Trump when asked if he had asked for forgiveness says he never done anything wrong. So, in the story of the Samaritan at the well, Jesus would be closer to being a liberal than that of today's conservative. That's just reality. My message for everyone is not to just read the good book, but seek to understand it. You probably should consider a brain scan. I said early that Jesus was BOTH a liberal and a conservative but yet neither. He doesn't fit in anyone's little box. The only one claiming him to a side here was Apple who said he was a liberal and only a liberal. My point was one could find Scriptures from both sides to support his viewpoints as being more liberal or more conservative.
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Post by Justice-N-Motion on Feb 4, 2024 8:48:38 GMT -5
I am not just saying this to you, but all people of religions, and not just Christianity. In the story of the Samaritan at the well, when Jesus says go and sin no more, it was not code for finding some orange man that regularly practices these sins and prop him up to be the guiding example for all of our free society. His (Jesus) message was don't do that sin anymore and go repent. Trump when asked if he had asked for forgiveness says he never done anything wrong. So, in the story of the Samaritan at the well, Jesus would be closer to being a liberal than that of today's conservative. That's just reality. My message for everyone is not to just read the good book, but seek to understand it. You probably should consider a brain scan. I said early that Jesus was BOTH a liberal and a conservative but yet neither. He doesn't fit in anyone's little box. The only one claiming him to a side here was Apple who said he was a liberal and only a liberal. My point was one could find Scriptures from both sides to support his viewpoints as being more liberal or more conservative. I read very well with a high comprehension rate. I read what you wrote and disagreed. Jesus is without sin and while all humans have sinned Jesus would be placed closer to the leanings of the Liberal than that of conservatives on the topic of marriage, vows, cheating, or to sum it all up the story of the Samaritan at the well.
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 4, 2024 8:59:28 GMT -5
You probably should consider a brain scan. I said early that Jesus was BOTH a liberal and a conservative but yet neither. He doesn't fit in anyone's little box. The only one claiming him to a side here was Apple who said he was a liberal and only a liberal. My point was one could find Scriptures from both sides to support his viewpoints as being more liberal or more conservative. I read very well with a high comprehension rate. I read what you wrote and disagreed. Jesus is without sin and while all humans have sinned Jesus would be placed closer to the leanings of the Liberal than that of conservatives on the topic of marriage, vows, cheating, or to sum it all up the story of the Samaritan at the well. No. He's not more liberal. If anything he espouses more conservative fews. But, I said neither side can put him in their box. You can keep trying though but you won't succeed.
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