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Post by deyana on Feb 19, 2024 21:10:38 GMT -5
JonBenét Ramsey mystery: New evidence that could lead to her killer
Child beauty queen JonBenét Ramsey is one of the most enduring cold cases in history, but new evidence ignored by police during the initial investigation may crack the mystery wide open.
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Post by deyana on Feb 19, 2024 21:13:09 GMT -5
Why security cameras are so important. All around your home on the outside if possible.
Back then, I don't think many people used them though.
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Post by Rusty on Feb 20, 2024 23:41:37 GMT -5
A percentage of homicides are never solved. This is going to be one of them
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 21, 2024 7:55:48 GMT -5
It's truly a puzzling case. The ransom note was totally bizarre. Was it Patsy who wrote it? Seems to be some indication of that but I am not sure there truly that many handwriting experts out there and how accurate that is. If she indeed wrote it then it was one of them.
But there have been strange break in and abduction stories in the past too. Like Polly Klass. They really tried to pin it on the father but ultimately it was a random break in/stranger who committed the acts.
I usually have some kind of feeling one way or the other about whodunit. But, really I just don't know which way I would fall even if i heard all the evidence completely.
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Post by sauerkraut on Feb 21, 2024 11:59:56 GMT -5
Why security cameras are so important. All around your home on the outside if possible. Back then, I don't think many people used them though. Yes but they can be doctored by computers today you can't always believe a picture or a video. Now enter AI and it's an even bigger ball game. |
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Post by snapper on Feb 21, 2024 12:06:03 GMT -5
If the Ramseys were involved, I think it was an accident they wanted to cover up. I go back and forth but am more inclined to think they were not involved in any way.
I certainly would not base Patsy's quilt on what the detective Steve Thomas said. I read his book. He referred to John's children with his first wife as Jon Benet's step siblings. If he doesn't know the difference in step and half siblings, then he probably isn't smart enough to even be a detective.
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Post by rico on Feb 21, 2024 12:43:40 GMT -5
They found foreign dna on her underwear that didn't match a single family member. Watch the video and actually see the evidence before you blame the family. Boulder police were like the Keystone Cops only not funny at all.
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Post by deyana on Feb 23, 2024 17:49:05 GMT -5
The foreign dna that didn't belong to any of the family members could have been planted there though.
The oddest thing about this case, is that long long ransom note. I mean who sits down to write a note in the very house that you are doing the crime? And if it was about ransom and getting money from these people, then why assault and kill this little girl?
It is indeed a very strange case.
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Post by deyana on Feb 23, 2024 17:50:20 GMT -5
Boulder police were like the Keystone Cops only not funny at all. I agree in that the local police there did it all wrong. From start to finish. |
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 23, 2024 18:39:31 GMT -5
If the Ramseys were involved, I think it was an accident they wanted to cover up. I go back and forth but am more inclined to think they were not involved in any way. I certainly would not base Patsy's quilt on what the detective Steve Thomas said. I read his book. He referred to John's children with his first wife as Jon Benet's step siblings. If he doesn't know the difference in step and half siblings, then he probably isn't smart enough to even be a detective. Accidents are rarely made to look like murders. Much more the other way around |
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Post by snapper on Feb 24, 2024 8:20:55 GMT -5
If the Ramseys were involved, I think it was an accident they wanted to cover up. I go back and forth but am more inclined to think they were not involved in any way. I certainly would not base Patsy's quilt on what the detective Steve Thomas said. I read his book. He referred to John's children with his first wife as Jon Benet's step siblings. If he doesn't know the difference in step and half siblings, then he probably isn't smart enough to even be a detective. Accidents are rarely made to look like murders. Much more the other way around Okay, if you want to believe some the wild theories like what Cyril Wecht said. I don't see the Ramseys as being intention killers or sexually abusing their daughter. If she was killed by someone in the family, then it has to be an accident. A cover up of an accident isn't the best way to go if that was what it was. |
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 24, 2024 8:23:20 GMT -5
It's much more "wild" to believe someone is making an accident look like a murder. If it was an accident they could say and show it was an accident. People generally don't go to jail for accidents.
But murders get staged to look like accidents.
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Post by snapper on Feb 24, 2024 8:39:36 GMT -5
It's much more "wild" to believe someone is making an accident look like a murder. If it was an accident they could say and show it was an accident. People generally don't go to jail for accidents. But murders get staged to look like accidents. Who do you think did it, Patsy or John? |
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 24, 2024 8:42:38 GMT -5
It's much more "wild" to believe someone is making an accident look like a murder. If it was an accident they could say and show it was an accident. People generally don't go to jail for accidents. But murders get staged to look like accidents. Who do you think did it, Patsy or John? I really don't know. I probably would lean towards a stranger break in, but the note is really weird. And the son is an odd duck but would he have been able to carry out that crime? I really don't know |
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Post by Springschick on Feb 24, 2024 14:07:13 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was someone in their social circle. Who? I have no clue, but I don't think it was family. They had no discernable motive.
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Post by apple on Feb 24, 2024 14:13:27 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was someone in their social circle. Who? I have no clue, but I don't think it was family. They had no discernable motive. Yes, someone who she knew and who also was familiar with the layout of the house. |
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Post by fuzzems on Feb 24, 2024 15:05:56 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was someone in their social circle. Who? I have no clue, but I don't think it was family. They had no discernable motive. Well hard to tell. If John was sexually abusing her or something that would be a motive. But, there isn't any real evidence of that as far as we know. |
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Post by Springschick on Feb 24, 2024 19:41:21 GMT -5
Personally, I think it was someone in their social circle. Who? I have no clue, but I don't think it was family. They had no discernable motive. Well hard to tell. If John was sexually abusing her or something that would be a motive. But, there isn't any real evidence of that as far as we know. And that is an allegation that I have never heard thrown around, and believe me, living as close to Boulder as I do, I have probably heard it all |
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Post by deyana on Feb 25, 2024 17:52:08 GMT -5
Who do you think did it, Patsy or John? Maybe her brother killed her? On purpose or by accident? And the parents covered it up, in order to save him. Better be left with one kid, then lose them both ? But who really knows. It's a mystery. But I bet you anything whoever killed the little girl was known to her. |
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Post by snapper on Feb 26, 2024 9:20:19 GMT -5
I know someone who won't listen to any theories on the case because she thinks it was the guy who played Santa Clause that did it. I can never get enough of anything relating to the case. I watched a video over the weekend "The Endless Riddle of JonBenet Ramsey". That gives a view of if it could have been John, Patsy, Burke or Intruder. It is approximately an hour and half long and very well worth watching IMO. I still lean toward it not being anyone in the family even with what was presented in the video like inconsistences in what John and Patsy said when being interviewed.
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