New Drug For Hepatitis C

[deyana]

im2, yes health care should be a priority. Way before the trillions that were spent on fighting in the Middle East for instance (in the US). The government takes our taxes and they should give us something back. Something that actually helps us.

Zebera I can understand where you are coming from. But then we are back to the same question - who will play judge and jury over whom should get what when it comes to health care.

When we are old, don't we want to have good health coverage still? After all we paid in our working years and now it's time for the younger generation to pay for us and so on. The same goes for pensions come to that. We have to take care of our sick and elderly, it's what makes a civilized society.

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Jan 6, 2016 19:26:52 GMT -5 deyana said:

Zebera I can understand where you are coming from. But then we are back to the same question - who will play judge and jury over whom should get what when it comes to health care.

Well..for me...that decision will come from who it really should come...Me!  and if I am not able to make decisions for myself, my Executor...

As for your "trillions of dollars" comment lets come to the facts. According to the OMB the total cost cost up to FY 2014 for both wars has been 1.55 trillion and of that 60% of that cost has been accrued under the current administration. Now compare that figure with how much was spent on Health Care during the same time period. In short...the fiscal costs of f Iraq and Afghanistan is peanuts.

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Over medicated? And who is at fault for that? I know people that run to the doctor the second they have a cold and guess what that doctor prescribes antibiotics or in the case of my brother in law who is now deceased it was pain killers dispensed like pez.
Doctors are making money – LOTS of money for prescribing drugs to you and your family. These kickbacks sway their prescribing decisions and any doctor who claims otherwise is in La La Land.

Who's responsible? both the Dr's and the un-informed Patient.

The practice of drug kickbacks to doctors is a big reason for the the ever increasing prices of drugs and the huge problem of drug affordability.

Not only is this practice of drug kickbacks extremely unethical, it is a danger to your health and the health of your loved ones, particularly if they are in the hospital and vulnerable to exploitation due to serious illness.

No argument here. Big Pharm and some DR's WANT people to be sick..They WANT people on the drug merry-go-round. I think you and I understand that. Ironically, once again you make my point...and now in America it's the law to have to pay into this system which enables this practice continue unabated even more...all under the banner of "everyone should have health coverage" Why should I and the young and healthy pay for this charade? Again if healthcare is such a great deal for everyone....why do they make it a crime if people don't have it? Obamacare does NOTHING to lower the costs of healthcare...all it does is shift the burden on the young and healthy. People need to be responsible for their OWN individual health care.

[deyana]

Or maybe it's obligatory to pay healthcare in the States, so that ER departments are not burdened with people who simply cannot pay and yet still have to be treated. 306

[deyana]

I like Obama. He took on a very difficult job and a country that was falling apart due to how the Bush government left it.

People in the know told him not to take it on, at that point in time, but he went ahead anyway.

He took on a mammoth task. And I am sure no one else could have done it any better.

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Jan 7, 2016 20:07:21 GMT -5 deyana said:

Or maybe it's obligatory to pay healthcare in the States, so that ER departments are not burdened with people who simply cannot pay and yet still have to be treated. 306

That's part  it...it allows hospitals to cover their costs, but then that just perpetuates the problem. People aka immagrants would go or take their kids to the ER for simple things like sore throat minor wounds or ear aches...an all know how much a visit to the ER costs and entails

[deyana]

'immigrants' huh?

I have traveled all over the USA, and I don't mean by staying in nice hotels and resorts. By car, one in which was my bedroom at the end each day. I saw many things and many poeple. And I never saw one single 'immigrant' in an ER room, all I saw were poor local people.

Your family must have been immigrants too once upon a time, zebera.

[deyana]

Jan 7, 2016 21:48:31 GMT -5 @im2 said:

Obama busted a barrier and he is now a man of history. Any person who busts barriers here always face the crazy,

You've just got people here who have things completely twisted and they hold a view of reality that contains amnesia. Until they face the amnesia, we will keep getting the crazy.

Exactly.

Anyone who stands up for something, anyone who has ever accomplished something out of the norm, will attract jealously and envy and hate. smiley-angry003

[deyana]

Jan 8, 2016 11:43:17 GMT -5 @im2 said:

Immigrants are not the only people who use the ER. Secondly, I have had recent health issues and made an appointment with a doctor. I will see that doctor early next month. So then if you call a doctor because you want to get immediate help, that might not happen. So then one uses the ER because they will look at the problem immediately and begin you on a healing course of action.

Now understand that I contacted several doctors and early next month is the earliest I could get.

Wow that is a long wait. When I want to see a doctor over here, I can sometimes get in the very same day or the next day depending.

And we also have walk in clinics in town, were you have to wait, but you will be seen within an hour or two.

And if a person needs ex-rays, they can be done instantly, same for blood tests. I live in a small village but we still have a hostpial, which is pretty well equipped. Half an hour away is the City hospital.

[deyana]

I guess that would be the equivalent of our walk-in-clincs, Spice?

We do have a shortage of doctors here too, and that is probably why the walk in clinics are used so often by some. I know there is a two year waiting list in the city for people looking for a physician. Having your own doctor, who has all your records at hand is the ideal situation of course.

But the point is a doctor is available nevertheless each day, if really needed. Outside of the ER department.

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....any sympathy for Irish immigrants who experienced "Hibernophobia" including racism, oppression, bigotry, persecution and discrimination?

www.edb.utexas.edu/faculty/salinas/students/student_sites/Fall2005/Irish-American/Index.html

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Jan 10, 2016 23:18:14 GMT -5 @im2 said:

We seem unable to mention that the Irish practiced racism against blacks/Hispanics, etc. But hey, anything to try making it like whites didn't do such a bad thing. And by the way, whites did what they did to the Irish. Funny how the Irish got to vote, own property and get jobs. Funny how Irish got to go to about any college they wanted to. And furthermore it's funny how Irish made up law enforcement in many cities in the north where they beat up harassed and killed blacks. But hey we've got amnesia, so we want to whine about how terrible whites were supposed to have it.

NO MORE! This is 2016 buddy. It's time for whites to face the music.

Stick to the subject muffin. Your whining about perceived Irish oppression has nothing to do with the expense charged for the Hep C medication. It has nothing to do with the health care system, and there ain't gonna be any sympathy for whites, Irish or otherwise, who continually try blaming everything on immigrants today.

.....hey, I was just responding to YOUR post regarding Zeberas relatives immigrating.

[deyana]

I'm glad Michael was seen to quickly even if not by the ER department, Spice. They are never sympathetic with anyone at the ER. Most people will avoid going to the ER if they possibly can. The walk in clinics are a good alternative. Although they are only open at certain hours of the day.

The thing is why is there such a shortage of Physicians? One of the reasons might be that only so many seats are available for a person to train to be one. And the other might be that after years of education and training, they are not that highly paid. Not when you compare them to other professions. My son was at one time thinking of training to be a Medical Doctor, but then he realized you don't get far very quickly even after you are qualified. So he chose to put his time and energy into another kind of profession.

No wonder we have a shortage of doctors. Also once qualified some of them realize that they can earn a lot more overseas. We do have a problem with brain drain here to some extent.

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..... shortage of US doctors could be the Obamacare effect.

obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-doctors/

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........thank God I live in Florida where Medicaid expansion was denied!! smiley-happy119_zpsbizs38mj

www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150606/NEWS/306069937

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....."cost of catastrophic illness", how about 4 out of 5 black women are morbidly obese due to DIET, causing a host of illnesses, especially diabetes, that burden the MEDICAL SYSTEM ... you cant blame their obesity on Racism, it's a cultural problem that we all have to pay for. You want links, let me know.

[deyana]

Jan 12, 2016 13:58:09 GMT -5 @im2 said:

You were talking about a situation you faced while in Canada. Deyana was talking about doctor shortages in Canada and Muffin tried throwing in his Obamacare comment. I doubt if there are fewer doctors in America because of Obama care, nor are increases in INSURANCE PREMIUMS related to Obamacare because health care insurance premiums rose every year before Obamacare. There are just some people out there who are ignorant and they blame Obama for everything wrong, while ignoring how unemployment has been cut in half since he started and that we have been adding jobs since he started also. But he's getting blamed by people like muffin for pulling out of Iraq early, when the status agreement had been made by Bush, and people like him blame Obama for Isis when there would have been no ISIS if we hadn't of invaded Iraq in the first place. People like him blame Obama for the instability in the region when the region has been no less unstable than it ever was, and if anything Bushs invasion made it worse.  But conservatives preach personal responsibility to everyone else but never take any them selves and quite frankly I'm sick of it.

Yep, what I was talking about was a bit off topic. And it had nothing to do with Obamacare or doctors in the US.

The conversation was gearing towards Medical insurance and how it was/is/should be eligible for people. The shortage of doctors, and why that is, could be another topic altogether.