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Post by sauerkraut on Jul 4, 2022 9:39:54 GMT -5
"NOVA" the PBS TV show is having a episode about stars, planets, the universe this week, over here it's on Wednesday nite at 8:pm. I think I'll be recording that, I love astronomy & science. Check your local tv listings.
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Jul 4, 2022 10:11:53 GMT -5
Believing in a plurality of worlds is not remotely the same as acceptance of the many absurd claims made by some of the wilder fringes of the UFO community. How many people are aware that there is an invariant reaction between UFO sightings and earthquake activity? How many people are aware that not a single UFO sighting was reported in the States before the arrival at White Sands of Wernher von Braun and other Nazi scientists? p How many people are aware that the Nazis spent time and money in attempting to develop flying discs? One of them was even patented in America in the early 1950s. How many people are aware that there is a large proportion of the UFO community that has swallowed whole a string of fantasies put out by Nazis and neo-Nazis from Ernst Zuendel (the notorious Holocaust denier) onwards? I will dig out some references and post them on here to attempt to bring some rationality to the question. Regarding the start of UFO sightings, people have been seeing anomalous things in the sky forever. WWII pilots reported seeing Foo Fighters during their missions. Charles Forte documented a number of anomalous sighting in his early 20th century writings. Back in the 1880s there were a number of sighting of “airships” mostly in the western U.S. states. You can even find various odd reports of anomalous arial sightings in the writings of medieval authors, usually assigning them to the doings of angels. UFOs have a long history all over the world. In the first place, the 'U' in UFO stands for 'unidentified.' It does NOT stand for extraterrestrial. Secondly, there have always been strange lights in the sky but almost all of them are easily explained. I have researched the UFO phenomenon for many years, spoken with many people and read widely on the subject. The foo fighters were 'identified' a long time ago by Vesco as being a German secret weapon. It is certainly highly significant that sightings of them stopped abruptly after Nazi secret bases were captured. Charles Fort (not Forte - he's a hotelier and restaurauteur!) also identified an invariant correlation between UFO sightings and close passages of Mars. And Lafreniere and Persinger have identified an INVARIANT correlation between UFO sightings and earthquake activity. Now it is very fashionable among those UFologists who prefer to adopt a religious rather than scientific attitude to ascribe all visions of angels, demons and so on as being ETs. But that is simply a belief system rather than a fact. Do I believe we are alone in the universe? No, and I have said so. Do I believe we have been contacted by aliens? No, and although I have sifted carefully through countless volumes of evidence and my wife and I have even seen a UFO ourselves in our back garden I remain unconvinced. A friend of ours pointed out on his Facebook page that von Daeniken is not only a convicted criminal (found guilty of fraud), but has LIED about going into a cave and seeing gold treasures (his companions confirmed that he NEVER went inside the cave) and his books contain numerous reproductions of WELL-KNOWN FAKES. When he posted this he was deluged with sarcasm and vitriol from those who prefer not to have their wishful thinking dashed by the hard light of day and the cold scrutiny of truth. As I say, it seems incredible to me that life does not exist on other worlds. The question is - has it ever appeared her? And at present all the evidence points to a negative answer to that question
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Post by sb on Jul 4, 2022 11:11:08 GMT -5
Um, okay. Who are you responding to?
In any case, my only point is that these sightings, while often explainable, are occasionally not and it’s been that way for as long as humans have been looking up at the sky.
I hope you find those people who are convinced that UFOs are alien craft and that you have a productive convo with them.
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Date Joined: Sept 16, 2012 13:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by sauerkraut on Jul 5, 2022 12:57:21 GMT -5
If interested the PBS show "NOVA" is supposed to have a episode about stars, planets & the universe- it's on Wednesday nite here at 8:PM central time. I saw it advertised.
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