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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 6, 2023 7:26:26 GMT -5
Ecocommunism is the new home of tin pot wanna be dictators. It's an easy way to play on the emotions of people, replace "nature" as their religion and then control them through carbon taxes, energy use, etc Renewable energy is bad. Repeat, rinse, swallow. No one said that renewable is bad. Just don't dive into it over this AGW nonsense.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 6, 2023 7:28:20 GMT -5
I have. I have had those discussions with you about EVs and on and on Yes, and we agree EV's are not the final answer. But they are a big part of the solution. No they aren't. They create even more pollution than a well tuned gas engine vehicle.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 6, 2023 7:33:11 GMT -5
Ya so tell me again why moving towards renewable energy is bad... I don't recall anyone ever saying that it was. "Unnecessary" is not the same as "bad"
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Post by apple on Jan 6, 2023 8:48:37 GMT -5
Ya so tell me again why moving towards renewable energy is bad... I don't recall anyone ever saying that it was. "Unnecessary" is not the same as "bad" Semantics is your game, not mine.
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 6, 2023 11:27:34 GMT -5
This seems to be one subject that romaniprincess and I agree on.
When there is a TV show or someone talking and they mention "climate change"(not in the way Earths climate is always changing- but in the terms of what "climate change' has become to mean in the political world.) I think right away political agenda dogma and I know real science just flew out the window.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 7, 2023 1:08:17 GMT -5
I don't recall anyone ever saying that it was. "Unnecessary" is not the same as "bad" Semantics is your game, not mine. It's not semantics... it's reality.
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 9, 2023 11:42:35 GMT -5
I just read that we had a very close shave on planet Earth with an asteroid on March 23, 1989 seems a big asteroid crossed Earth orbit just 6 hours after earth was there, so in other words if Earths orbit 'round the sun was a bit slower or the asteroid was a bit faster we would of met. WoW and no one noticed it till after it already happened. The asteroid was the size of a mountain.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jan 12, 2023 2:29:11 GMT -5
I just read that we had a very close shave on planet Earth with an asteroid on March 23, 1989 seems a big asteroid crossed Earth orbit just 6 hours after earth was there, so in other words if Earths orbit 'round the sun was a bit slower or the asteroid was a bit faster we would of met. WoW and no one noticed it till after it already happened. The asteroid was the size of a mountain. We are monitoring them now We are monitoring the ones that we know about, you mean.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 8:08:00 GMT -5
I just read that we had a very close shave on planet Earth with an asteroid on March 23, 1989 seems a big asteroid crossed Earth orbit just 6 hours after earth was there, so in other words if Earths orbit 'round the sun was a bit slower or the asteroid was a bit faster we would of met. WoW and no one noticed it till after it already happened. The asteroid was the size of a mountain. Well, as you like to say, everything is cyclical, and we are way past due for an extinction level event.
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 12, 2023 11:58:18 GMT -5
We are monitoring them now We are monitoring the ones that we know about, you mean. That's the problem there are so many asteroids that if/when we git hit it may likely be a big surprise. A hit out of the blue! They are watching the skys today and they were watching the skys in 1989 and yet an asteroid got by and crossed Earths orbit path just 6 hours earlier. That 1989 asteroid was discovered only after it crossed Earths orbit. I don't remember that asteroid being in the news in 1989. That was a very close shave it could of been a life extension event the asteroid was as big as a mountain.
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Post by sauerkraut on Jan 12, 2023 12:07:51 GMT -5
I just read that we had a very close shave on planet Earth with an asteroid on March 23, 1989 seems a big asteroid crossed Earth orbit just 6 hours after earth was there, so in other words if Earths orbit 'round the sun was a bit slower or the asteroid was a bit faster we would of met. WoW and no one noticed it till after it already happened. The asteroid was the size of a mountain. Well, as you like to say, everything is cyclical, and we are way past due for an extinction level event. This is not about a single asteroid impact like what happened 65 million years ago- It's a cycle where Earth gets impact after impact. There is a strange extinction event for Earth that happens every 26 million years like clockwork, no one sure what causes it but they suspect the Oort cloud is at fault. Something passing thru the Oort cloud disturbs the orbits of the asteroids there and sends them heading in toward the sun & Earth. Other asteroid events/impacts will and can be happen between those extinction 26 million year events. Our planet is in a shooting gallery. Anyhoo, the 26 million year extinction event is said to be so much like clockwork it's not a coincidence or just bad luck, something is causing it. Our moon is full of impact craters and it's right next door so ya can bet Earth had just as many impacts in it's 4.5 Billion year history.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 14:06:21 GMT -5
Well, as you like to say, everything is cyclical, and we are way past due for an extinction level event. We are already in a mass extinction event. And what would that be?
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 14:21:38 GMT -5
Meh, 95% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. Let me know when the human population starts to become extinct. I know it is bound to happen.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 14:33:11 GMT -5
Meh, 95% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. Let me know when the human population starts to become extinct. I know it is bound to happen. We may be intelligent enough to escape extinction I doubt it. Everything has it's time. A beginning and an end. I do not believe that we are any different.
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Post by apple on Jan 12, 2023 14:47:39 GMT -5
We may be intelligent enough to escape extinction I doubt it. Everything has it's time. A beginning and an end. I do not believe that we are any different. A few years ago, I might have fought you on this one saying how basically good and resilient humans are. However the last few years have shown me just how willingly ignorant, basically stupid humans are and how very careless.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 15:23:48 GMT -5
I doubt it. Everything has it's time. A beginning and an end. I do not believe that we are any different. If an asteroid hits us and results in widespread crop failure we have lost of stored food to last and we could grow things with artificial lighting. But a lot of people would certainly die. If we were hit with an asteroid, more than a lot of people would die. I would imagine pretty much almost everything would die, and the various things we use for power would probably also be wiped out. Not sure where your artificial light would come from, and how long it would take. But, life does find a way. At least it might be an opportunity for the few who remain to try again.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 15:26:43 GMT -5
I doubt it. Everything has it's time. A beginning and an end. I do not believe that we are any different. A few years ago, I might have fought you on this one saying how basically good and resilient humans are. However the last few years have shown me just how willingly ignorant, basically stupid humans are and how very careless. I am not sure being good or resilient is the issue. I think being composed of mainly soft tissue might be more of an issue. Our bodies do not do well with concussive shock, as would happen in an asteroid strike. I do not believe that Homo Sapiens is exempt from extinction. It may be far into the future, but like all things, our time will come and go.
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Post by apple on Jan 12, 2023 15:32:10 GMT -5
A few years ago, I might have fought you on this one saying how basically good and resilient humans are. However the last few years have shown me just how willingly ignorant, basically stupid humans are and how very careless. I am not sure being good or resilient is the issue. I think being composed of mainly soft tissue might be more of an issue. Our bodies do not do well with concussive shock, as would happen in an asteroid strike. I do not believe that Homo Sapiens is exempt from extinction. It may be far into the future, but like all things, our time will come and go. I don't believe it will be an asteroid strike. It will be either nuclear or viral.
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Post by Springschick on Jan 12, 2023 15:58:47 GMT -5
I am not sure being good or resilient is the issue. I think being composed of mainly soft tissue might be more of an issue. Our bodies do not do well with concussive shock, as would happen in an asteroid strike. I do not believe that Homo Sapiens is exempt from extinction. It may be far into the future, but like all things, our time will come and go. I don't believe it will be an asteroid strike. It will be either nuclear or viral. I believe it will be viral, too. I have thought that for a long time.
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Post by sb on Jan 12, 2023 21:58:34 GMT -5
All that’s needed to destroy most of our civilization is a huge solar flair like the Carrington event of 1854. Back then it just destroyed a bunch of telegraph equipment, today it would probably destroy our power infrastructure. It would be very bad.
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