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Post by Justbec on Dec 8, 2022 19:43:12 GMT -5
No Meghan, we America's understand respect. And for Harry to just sit there and watch....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 21:06:31 GMT -5
Does Harry really think Diana would have been happy about this situation? With him being estranged from his brother? I am sure that would be very painful to her if she were alive.
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Post by Justbec on Dec 8, 2022 21:17:01 GMT -5
I'm sure she wouldn't like it but you know what he let it happen. I hope King Charles (I think that's what his name is now) and the family never let them set a toe in the palace again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 21:47:13 GMT -5
He just needs to put up the wall that they are DONE and remove their titles. Him not having done that yet is fueling a lot of this drama
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 21:48:09 GMT -5
I mean, sucks that it's his son but he has to put his Duty first in this case. Harry wanted to leave the Royal life, so he should be out fully and completely
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Post by Justbec on Dec 8, 2022 22:03:42 GMT -5
I agree @fuzzems,
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Post by romaniprincess on Dec 9, 2022 17:34:22 GMT -5
But why RP? What makes you so proud of them? Obviously royals - like everyone else - are individuals. Some of them are wastes of space like Harry and Meghan, Andrew, Margaret and (going further back) Edward VIII. But on the whole most of the kings and queens have been good and I'd rather have a monarch as head of state than either some politico like Macron or Biden or some nonentity like they have in Ireland or Germany. Juan Carlos saved Spanish democracy when the military attempted a coup. George V went out of his way to welcome Ramsay Macdonald as the first Labour Prime Minister (at the time there was huge worry that it might provoke a constitutional crisis.) Edward VII got us friends with France after centuries of war and hostility. George VI and Queen Elizabeth were brilliant talismans during the war. The queen hardly put a foot wrong during her 70 years on the throne. I've got every confidence in the king and in William and Kate to carry on the tradition of good monarchs. I'd HATE to see something like President Attenborough on the one hand or President Blair on the other. God save the king! In the words of Robert Browning: 'God for King Charles, Pym and his carles To the devil that prompts them their treasonous parles.' And (again by Browning): 'King Charles, and who'll do him right now?'
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Post by deyana on Dec 10, 2022 19:47:08 GMT -5
So much hate thrown towards Harry and Meghan. Just plain sad.
RP, so your pride is in the English history? Or of the Queen 'never putting a foot wrong'. I still don't quite get why you are so proud?
Question is should we really be expecting such unrelenting and difficult duty from anyone today? And why?
Personally I think the whole Royal household and the entire Firm (everyone involved in keeping the Royals going) needs to be looked at and many things need to change. No one is really happy. Certainly not the Royals. Look at all that has happened within the last few decades alone?
Harry and Meghan have done the right thing. They have broken away. He will always be a Prince, it's not just a title given to him, he is the Kings son. And his children, should be able to hold the title Prince and Princess, of course they should.
It's easy to rubbish this couple. But just listen to what they been through - the pain and the upheaval.
And as for those that are yelling all over the place that Harry needs to 'put Meghan in her place', I mean what the hell? What do they think he should do? Tie her up, whip her? It's absolutely ridiculous. Harry wanted Meghan because she is an intelligent free thinking woman, who had her own life, was independent and forward thinking and fearless. If he wanted a doormat, there were plenty hanging around him for years. Get over it, he wants Meghan, and he supports and loves her and she him. End of.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 9:11:21 GMT -5
Pretty strange to then name your child after the Queen. And why are they using their Duke and Dutchess titles? This is America and doesn't mean anything to us. They walked away, so walk away. Yet they seem to want to hold on to that. Oh, and Meghan seems to have no problem with people curtseying to her.
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Post by Justbec on Dec 11, 2022 11:54:47 GMT -5
Harry and Meghan stated they wanted to remove themselves from the Royal family to get away from the media and publicity. Since coming to the U.S. they have done nothing but tour, do TV spots, pod casts and Netflix. All to make money trashing the Royals.
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Post by deyana on Dec 11, 2022 16:56:54 GMT -5
Pretty strange to then name your child after the Queen. And why are they using their Duke and Dutchess titles? This is America and doesn't mean anything to us. They walked away, so walk away. Yet they seem to want to hold on to that. Oh, and Meghan seems to have no problem with people curtseying to her. I don't see why they should have to give up their titles, even if they mean nothing in America. Some are saying that they should be stripped of their titles complelty, but then shouldn't some of the other Royals have their titles taken away as well? It's only fair isn't it? I mean King Charles had a long term affair while married. Camilla screwed around with the future King, while he was married. Andrew, and what he did with under age girls, and then there are the older Royal household who can't seem to look past a person's color or race. Maybe they should all be stripped of their titles too? Why shouldn't they name their daughter after the Queen? Harry is the Queen's grandson after all. They loved the Queen and had no gripes with her. As for Meghan 'having no problem' with being curtsied to, how do you know that? How do you know that she didn't find it embarrassing? What could she do about all of that pomp and ceremony anyway? And for the record she never said she had a problem with curtsying to the Queen, she just said she didn't know how. No doubt she found all the pomp silly, embarrassing and way over the top. But there is nothing she could do about that apart from one thing. And that is to move away, and that she did. From all accounts she was terribly depressed with the pressure she was under while living at the palace. Same kind of pressure , that Harry well knew, him mom Princess Diana had to endure. And look how all that panned out? And Meghan had one more thing to contend with on top of all that, jibes about her race and color and the color of what her kids will be when they are born. That kind of shit is hurtful, no wonder she wanted to run. I have read many things on the internet about what people were saying about Meghan, not via the media but real posts on Youtube and such, so much racism thrown her way. I still remember one guy saying "Harry, just don't have any kids with her". Some were so afraid of 'spoiling' the white lineage of Royalty, so worried about having a black person diluting the Royal genes. It's laughable really, Harry and William are mixed race themselves! If you want to go by the one drop rule, they have an Indian great great (something) grandmother on Princess Diana side of the family. Genealogists have her name and history and all the information and DNA proof they need. It's really getting harder for racists to know who to hate huh?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 16:59:07 GMT -5
Yes , they left royalty to live here. They should not have titles. Seems pointless to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:01:00 GMT -5
But that's up to England, that's their prerogative or not.
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Post by deyana on Dec 11, 2022 17:01:03 GMT -5
Since coming to the U.S. they have done nothing but tour, do TV spots, pod casts and Netflix. All to make money trashing the Royals. The thing is some things do need to come out in the open. Talking about their lives is not 'trashing the Royals'. The Royals are very capable of putting their own dirty laundry out, as we have seen over and over again. If anything this documentary shows just how nice and honest and kind these two are. I am sure there is much they are not saying to just in order to protect the other Royals. Harry and Meghan have every right to talk about the wrongs that were done to them, and to correct lies told about them. Netflix is good a place as any to do this. Good for them I say. May they find peace.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:03:30 GMT -5
Except they claimed to want "privacy" to not interact with media and papparazzi . So their stories don't add up
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Post by Justbec on Dec 11, 2022 17:09:16 GMT -5
Except they claimed to want "privacy" to not interact with media and papparazzi . So their stories don't add up I agree and deyana, I get you like them and that's fine but to me they have behaved horribly. His grandmother just died and there she is mocking a bow to her and laughing and Harry sits there with a stupid smirk on is face. And they released all the racism stuff when his grandfather was in a hospital dying. To me that is unforgivable.
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Post by deyana on Dec 11, 2022 17:26:31 GMT -5
I think Harry and Meghan were just living their lives and they were being hounded and insulted and all sorts of crap thrown at them, while the grandparents were unwell. Wouldn't it have been nice if those that did that could have waited? I find that unforgivable.
Anyone got anything to say about that?
Like I said Meghan was not mocking the Queen, although I know those who hate her will cherry pick any little thing she does and try and make her look like this witch, who took poor Harry and has him under some witchy spell. And all in order to distroy the whole Royal family in one go. Wow the power of the woman.
Anyway, do any of you have any sympathy at all for what this couple have been through? Any at all?
Fact is the Royal family needs to end. They are not happy, the British public are suffering and all the while still having to pay taxes to upkeep them all. How does any of this makes sense in today's world?
The divide between the rich and poor is getting bigger by the minute in the UK. There are homeless, there are hungry and then there are the Royal family, still living in a fantasy world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:29:13 GMT -5
Why does the Royal family "need to end"? It is their country and they mostly embrace the Monarchy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2022 17:31:59 GMT -5
I think Harry and Meghan were just living their lives and they were being hounded and insulted and all sorts of crap thrown at them, while the grandparents were unwell. Wouldn't it have been nice if those that did that could have waited? I find that unforgivable. Anyone got anything to say about that? Like I said Meghan was not mocking the Queen, although I know those who hate her will cherry pick any little thing she does and try and make her look like this witch, who took poor Harry and has him under some witchy spell. And all in order to distroy the whole Royal family in one go. Wow the power of the woman. Anyway, do any of you have any sympathy at all for what this couple have been through? Any at all? Fact is the Royal family needs to end. They are not happy, the British public are suffering and all the while still having to pay taxes to upkeep them all. How does any of this makes sense in today's world? The divide between the rich and poor is getting bigger by the minute in the UK. There are homeless, there are hungry and then their are the Royal family, still living in a fantasy world.Well, you say this then above ask if anyone has "sympathy" for them living their rich, priveleged lives. Which way do you want it? Harry is endowed with millions whether he stays or go. So not sure what sympathy the avg Joe is supposed to feel because Meghan thought it was "weird" to curtsy to the decades standing Queen of England.
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Post by deyana on Dec 11, 2022 17:34:10 GMT -5
Why does the Royal family "need to end"? It is their country and they mostly embrace the Monarchy. Are you willing to pay for their upkeep, Fuzzems? Many are Britain are tired of doing it. The Royal family makes no sense in today's world and today's climate.
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