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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 9:01:23 GMT -5
A ‘National Divorce’ Is An Understandable Desire But A Recipe For Disaster
thefederalist.com/2023/02/27/a-national-divorce-is-an-understandable-desire-but-a-recipe-for-disaster/A national divorce is impractical, and the prospect of a civil war, which is what happened last time it was tried, is horrible. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Georgia congresswoman, is a terrible messenger for the idea. Thus, it is no surprise that her tweet about the need for a national divorce brought a cavalcade of criticism upon her, including from fellow Republicans.
Yet for all the problems with the proposal — to say nothing of the often-stupid responses — there are good reasons why the idea is alluring to some on the right. Acknowledging these points is not an endorsement of a national breakup, and ignoring them will not make them go away.
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 13:23:10 GMT -5
Plus all the blue states are not contiguous. True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. |
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Post by apple on Feb 28, 2023 13:52:51 GMT -5
Plus all the blue states are not contiguous. True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. Quebec will gladly join.  |
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Post by Justbec on Feb 28, 2023 13:55:08 GMT -5
Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. Now that would be Great. But our Government will never give up the power now that they have it! |
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 14:11:48 GMT -5
True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. What powers are you referring to exactly? All the powers not specifically granted to the Federal government as stated in the Constitution and don't conflict with the Bill of Rights. |
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 14:12:45 GMT -5
Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. Now that would be Great. But our Government will never give up the power now that they have it! The States would have to take them back. Obviously not an easy chore. |
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 14:31:54 GMT -5
All the powers not specifically granted to the Federal government as stated in the Constitution and don't conflict with the Bill of Rights. Could you be a little more specific? Like which ones they gave up? I am interested in this subject. That's a huge topic but I'll give you one for instance. If the Republican Congress managed to pass a law making abortion illegal and a State chose not to comply with that law then primacy in this case should be given to the State. There is nothing in the Constitution granting the Federal government the power to legalize or ban abortions. |
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 15:42:00 GMT -5
That's a huge topic but I'll give you one for instance. If the Republican Congress managed to pass a law making abortion illegal and a State chose not to comply with that law then primacy in this case should be given to the State. There is nothing in the Constitution granting the Federal government the power to legalize or ban abortions. Okay, I think I can agree with that. Maybe this would be a good way to help solve this problem. It was a brilliant concept at it's inception. Each state can be a test case for the rest of the states for new ideas. I'm also kicking around the idea that the Federal government should be funded by the States instead of by federal income taxes. That would move an incredible amount of power back to the governors where it belongs. There might be some bugs in that idea though. |
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Post by Justbec on Feb 28, 2023 15:54:45 GMT -5
It was a brilliant concept at it's inception. Each state can be a test case for the rest of the states for new ideas. I'm also kicking around the idea that the Federal government should be funded by the States instead of by federal income taxes. That would move an incredible amount of power back to the governors where it belongs. There might be some bugs in that idea though. I like that, let the states rule themselves |
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Post by sb on Feb 28, 2023 16:29:49 GMT -5
Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. That never happened. Learn the supremacy clause and start understanding whatit means. That the Federal government has primacy in a situation where the power has been delegated to it by the Constitution? Totally agree with that. |
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Post by 🦍MAXX＞ⓤ on Mar 6, 2023 13:59:57 GMT -5
Plus all the blue states are not contiguous. True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. And how pray tell do you see that happening??? |
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Post by apple on Mar 6, 2023 14:02:48 GMT -5
True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. And how pray tell do you see that happening??? Quebec!  |
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Post by sb on Mar 6, 2023 14:09:08 GMT -5
True. You'd probably end up with several new independent areas that might even include areas of Canada. Abetter solution would be to return to the States the powers that they willingly gave up to the Federal government and return to the original vision of the Constitution. And how pray tell do you see that happening??? i was actually thinking of the Western provinces outside of British Columbia where they are a lot more like their counterparts in the western states of the U.S.. I would imagine that, given the choice, Quebec would go its own way. |
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Post by apple on Mar 6, 2023 14:24:35 GMT -5
And how pray tell do you see that happening??? i was actually thinking of the Western provinces outside of British Columbia where they are a lot more like their counterparts in the western states of the U.S.. I would imagine that, given the choice, Quebec would go its own way. You mean Alberta, where the tar sands are. lol You already own a lot of Alberta. Koch Industries also controls anywhere from 1.1 million to as much as two million acres of Alberta's oil sands – or the equivalent of around 4,500 square kilometers. |
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Post by romaniprincess on Mar 6, 2023 15:30:58 GMT -5
They could always ask us to take over and rule them again!   |
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