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Post by Rusty on Apr 9, 2023 21:37:25 GMT -5
Why? Why is the place you worship important? Hebrews 10:25 🤷♂️ I really can't explain from a personal standpoint but that's it. The highlight of my weekend was to go to Black Rock with San as you know
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Post by Springschick on Apr 9, 2023 21:47:13 GMT -5
Why? Why is the place you worship important? Hebrews 10:25 🤷♂️ I really can't explain from a personal standpoint but that's it. The highlight of my weekend was to go to Black Rock with San as you know That is about assembling. That verse says nothing about going to Church. See, this is part of the issue I have with organized religions. I do not believe that there is a wrong way to worship any deity you believe in. I believe that is personal to you (collectively), and it cannot be done wrong. I am truly glad you enjoyed going to Church. Everyone needs something in their life that brings them peace and comfort.
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Post by Rusty on Apr 10, 2023 0:46:26 GMT -5
Hebrews 10:25 🤷♂️ I really can't explain from a personal standpoint but that's it. The highlight of my weekend was to go to Black Rock with San as you know That is about assembling. That verse says nothing about going to Church. See, this is part of the issue I have with organized religions. I do not believe that there is a wrong way to worship any deity you believe in. I believe that is personal to you (collectively), and it cannot be done wrong. I am truly glad you enjoyed going to Church. Everyone needs something in their life that brings them peace and comfort. Well assembling IS going to church aka getting together with other believers. What else could it possibly mean?🤷♂️ Anyway I hope you enjoyed your weekend as much as I did.👍🏼
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Post by Springschick on Apr 10, 2023 10:19:51 GMT -5
That is about assembling. That verse says nothing about going to Church. See, this is part of the issue I have with organized religions. I do not believe that there is a wrong way to worship any deity you believe in. I believe that is personal to you (collectively), and it cannot be done wrong. I am truly glad you enjoyed going to Church. Everyone needs something in their life that brings them peace and comfort. Well assembling IS going to church aka getting together with other believers. What else could it possibly mean?🤷♂️ Anyway I hope you enjoyed your weekend as much as I did.👍🏼 You have that backwards. Church is a form of assembling. So is a Bible study, a prayer meeting, youth groups, coffee dates, picnics. And I had an excellent weekend, thank you!
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Post by Springschick on Apr 10, 2023 11:40:39 GMT -5
So is that a yes or a no? Neither as I don't speak for God. Another excellent point. Can any man or woman speak for God?
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Post by Springschick on Apr 10, 2023 11:47:03 GMT -5
Another excellent point. Can any man or woman speak for God? Many claim to But in actuality, can they? I have always been told that no man knows the mind or will of God. To me, that also includes those that preach to others. And just for background, I grew up Roman Catholic. Went to Sunday school, CCD classes, was confirmed and had both of my kids baptized with the Catholic Church. I am not someone who is unaware.
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Post by Rusty on Apr 12, 2023 22:48:43 GMT -5
Well assembling IS going to church aka getting together with other believers. What else could it possibly mean?🤷♂️ Anyway I hope you enjoyed your weekend as much as I did.👍🏼 You have that backwards. Church is a form of assembling. So is a Bible study, a prayer meeting, youth groups, coffee dates, picnics. And I had an excellent weekend, thank you! No I definitely don't. The meaning of the passage is " worship". Bible study, youth groups YES. Coffee dates? Um, no
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Post by Springschick on Apr 13, 2023 7:17:54 GMT -5
You have that backwards. Church is a form of assembling. So is a Bible study, a prayer meeting, youth groups, coffee dates, picnics. And I had an excellent weekend, thank you! No I definitely don't. The meaning of the passage is " worship". Bible study, youth groups YES. Coffee dates? Um, no So, you can't worship in a coffee shop with two or three other believers? So, the building counts?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 7:37:51 GMT -5
No I definitely don't. The meaning of the passage is " worship". Bible study, youth groups YES. Coffee dates? Um, no So, you can't worship in a coffee shop with two or three other believers? So, the building counts? Since there were very detailed instructions in the OT about altars and places of worship and designated holy places , at least for Christianity, I would say those things hold SOME importance if one is following that religion.
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Post by Springschick on Apr 13, 2023 8:29:25 GMT -5
So, you can't worship in a coffee shop with two or three other believers? So, the building counts? Since there were very detailed instructions in the OT about altars and places of worship and designated holy places , at least for Christianity, I would say those things hold SOME importance if one is following that religion. The Old Testament really didn't say anything about Christianity, as it had not been created yet. The Old Testament is a Jewish tome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 8:38:22 GMT -5
Since there were very detailed instructions in the OT about altars and places of worship and designated holy places , at least for Christianity, I would say those things hold SOME importance if one is following that religion. The Old Testament really didn't say anything about Christianity, as it had not been created yet. The Old Testament is a Jewish tome. I'm aware. Christianity encompasses New and Old Testament. Yes, Gentile Christians are not under Jewish law. But, I think there is a point being made about gathering and worshipping. I think the point is more to keep connections probably with other believers which is harder to do when people do not gather. Not telling you or anyone what to do. Just pointing out those parts of the Bible
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Post by Springschick on Apr 13, 2023 9:17:01 GMT -5
The Old Testament really didn't say anything about Christianity, as it had not been created yet. The Old Testament is a Jewish tome. I'm aware. Christianity encompasses New and Old Testament. Yes, Gentile Christians are not under Jewish law. But, I think there is a point being made about gathering and worshipping. I think the point is more to keep connections probably with other believers which is harder to do when people do not gather. Not telling you or anyone what to do. Just pointing out those parts of the Bible And all I asked is if God really cares where you worship. If so, why? Are praises "praisier" when given in certain buildings? Kinda makes saying your prayers before bed seem kind of pointless, if you can only worship in Church.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 10:08:38 GMT -5
Well how do we know what God thinks about anything? If one reveres the Bible then I assume one goes to that to get some ideas about what God might think. Obviously one can read and decide for themselves
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Post by Springschick on Apr 13, 2023 11:21:30 GMT -5
So, you can't worship in a coffee shop with two or three other believers? So, the building counts? The building does not matter to me though some buildings like cathedrals have a certain spiritual atmosphere. But really it is about the people who gather together. I completely agree. The forest also has a spiritual atmosphere.
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Post by John on Jun 14, 2023 23:51:44 GMT -5
This may surprise many, but I left organized religion a long time ago, but not because I am against church. I left it because I saw it moving away from Biblical truth to just trying to fill the sanctuary with tithe payers and workers. It became gimmicky built through church growth seminars. It became a place of entertainment. I have been wanting to find a good church to attend. The best one I have visited in the last few years was a Bible Methodist Church, which is of the same Wesleyan tradition as the United Methodist Church, but much more conservative. Still, it is not a perfect fit.
I will tell you what I want to see is a church whose primary mission is outreach. It should care about ministering to the whole needs of men and women: body, soul and spirit. The church services should be worshipful and the messages straight from the King James Bible, with no fluff or compromise. We should have a respect for the church again like it used to be. Church has become too casual. It is God's house. I have a vision for what I think a church should be, but it does not exist, and I do not have time to start one. I also think the church should do everything possible to be set up as the early church was and as the New Testament teaches the structure should be.
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Post by corrina on Jun 15, 2023 8:59:32 GMT -5
People often say that they can worship God while watching a sunset, or fishing, or while walking in the forest. Sure you can worship alone, and it's important to spend time with God one on one. But we need someone to teach us the word of God, and pray for one another. We're not supposed to go through this life alone. We need the support and prayers of others. A building called a church is just a building, but when believers gather in it, it becomes more than just a building.
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