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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 9:55:20 GMT -5
A high quality of life including being zapped with electric “hot shots” so that they’ll charge out of the chute, calves’ necks are twisted as they’re violently slammed onto the ground, and horses are viciously spurred into bucking. Or the “flank strap” which is cinched tight around the bull's torso just before it is released is not enjoyable for the bull. 1. First off they're cattle, something you kill to eat. 2. Cows skins are thick, so when they hot shot them it's more of an irritable tingle or sting. 3. They don't hot shot them to get them out of the chute but into the chute, only if needed. 4. The rowels on a spur can't be locked and must spin freely to keep from hurting the bulls and/or horses. 5. The flank strap tickles the underside of a bull and/or horse, it has no pressure. 6. Horses aren't spurred to make them buck, the shanks on a spur are used to hold on when dismounting or coming out of the chute. Again, the rowels spin freely and that spurring action is done for scoring points, completely harmless. 5. Calf roping is no different from what the calves go through when being worked on a ranch. 1.) There's a human way to process our food. 2.) That's called torture no matter what word you use 3.) To get them out of the chute they're spurred 4.) You ever been spurred? They hurt! Even the bull knows that. 5.) I don't see the horses laughing from being tickled, Instead they buck and kicked like they're being hurt. I wish we could ask them. 6.) Horses learn that strong bucking gets rid of the rider and any related pain caused by spurring. 5.2) This doesn't make it human or painless. Want someone to brand you? It's painless. All this stated, I like me a rodeo. I could tell stories, but I'm not ignorant to think the animal loves it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 9:57:10 GMT -5
We eat meat. Animals eat other animals as well. Sorry but that's part of nature. Nature is often brutal but it is what it is.
Horses actually LIKE running. They are designed for that.
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Post by sb on Jun 4, 2023 10:11:00 GMT -5
Bottom line, take your politics and your obsessive need to force other people to conform to your mores and shove it.
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Post by hank on Jun 4, 2023 10:16:18 GMT -5
1. First off they're cattle, something you kill to eat. 2. Cows skins are thick, so when they hot shot them it's more of an irritable tingle or sting. 3. They don't hot shot them to get them out of the chute but into the chute, only if needed. 4. The rowels on a spur can't be locked and must spin freely to keep from hurting the bulls and/or horses. 5. The flank strap tickles the underside of a bull and/or horse, it has no pressure. 6. Horses aren't spurred to make them buck, the shanks on a spur are used to hold on when dismounting or coming out of the chute. Again, the rowels spin freely and that spurring action is done for scoring points, completely harmless. 5. Calf roping is no different from what the calves go through when being worked on a ranch. 1.) There's a human way to process our food. 2.) That's called torture no matter what word you use 3.) To get them out of the chute they're spurred 4.) You ever been spurred? They hurt! Even the bull knows that. 5.) I don't see the horses laughing from being tickled, Instead they buck and kicked like they're being hurt. I wish we could ask them. 6.) Horses learn that strong bucking gets rid of the rider and any related pain caused by spurring. 5.2) This doesn't make it human or painless. Want someone to brand you? It's painless. All this stated, I like me a rodeo. I could tell stories, but I'm not ignorant to think the animal loves it. Right, you enjoy going to a rodeo so you can wear your Annie Oakley outfit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 10:16:55 GMT -5
I don't think training animals or having them perform is abuse. We perform every day for 8+hrs to earn our keep. Nothing wrong with working animals. They pull plows and do all kinds of things. But, I agree they should be treated with care, fed well, kept in good condition, be able to rest, etc. And we have animal abuse laws so anyone outrightly abusing animals can or should be charged.
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Post by apple on Jun 4, 2023 11:09:56 GMT -5
1. First off they're cattle, something you kill to eat. 2. Cows skins are thick, so when they hot shot them it's more of an irritable tingle or sting. 3. They don't hot shot them to get them out of the chute but into the chute, only if needed. 4. The rowels on a spur can't be locked and must spin freely to keep from hurting the bulls and/or horses. 5. The flank strap tickles the underside of a bull and/or horse, it has no pressure. 6. Horses aren't spurred to make them buck, the shanks on a spur are used to hold on when dismounting or coming out of the chute. Again, the rowels spin freely and that spurring action is done for scoring points, completely harmless. 5. Calf roping is no different from what the calves go through when being worked on a ranch. 1.) There's a human way to process our food. 2.) That's called torture no matter what word you use 3.) To get them out of the chute they're spurred 4.) You ever been spurred? They hurt! Even the bull knows that. 5.) I don't see the horses laughing from being tickled, Instead they buck and kicked like they're being hurt. I wish we could ask them. 6.) Horses learn that strong bucking gets rid of the rider and any related pain caused by spurring. 5.2) This doesn't make it human or painless. Want someone to brand you? It's painless. All this stated, I like me a rodeo. I could tell stories, but I'm not ignorant to think the animal loves it. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:10:52 GMT -5
1.) There's a human way to process our food. 2.) That's called torture no matter what word you use 3.) To get them out of the chute they're spurred 4.) You ever been spurred? They hurt! Even the bull knows that. 5.) I don't see the horses laughing from being tickled, Instead they buck and kicked like they're being hurt. I wish we could ask them. 6.) Horses learn that strong bucking gets rid of the rider and any related pain caused by spurring. 5.2) This doesn't make it human or painless. Want someone to brand you? It's painless. All this stated, I like me a rodeo. I could tell stories, but I'm not ignorant to think the animal loves it. 👍 Instead of telling stories why didn't you contact authorities about the abuse you saw?
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Post by apple on Jun 4, 2023 11:15:03 GMT -5
We eat meat. Animals eat other animals as well. Sorry but that's part of nature. Nature is often brutal but it is what it is. Horses actually LIKE running. They are designed for that. Ya we eat meat but there are some pretty horrific practices in the process of supplying massive amounts of meat to your table. Horses are trained to race. Its not natural to sprint race. The thousands of horses that dont make the cut are not treated well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:27:03 GMT -5
We eat meat. Animals eat other animals as well. Sorry but that's part of nature. Nature is often brutal but it is what it is. Horses actually LIKE running. They are designed for that. Ya we eat meat but there are some pretty horrific practices in the process of supplying massive amounts of meat to your table. Horses are trained to race. Its not natural to sprint race. The thousands of horses that dont make the cut are not treated well. I think we are too removed from farming and the natural realm of life now. Many people really don't know how meat ends up in a styrofoam package. And I agree we should respect where and how our food comes from.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:28:10 GMT -5
Instead of telling stories why didn't you contact authorities about the abuse you saw? I'm not sure to whom you're talking, but you assume authorities are unaware of the treatment. Authorities, as you called them, would enforce any laws being broken and not necessarily what anyone would view as the human or otherwise. Just saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:29:57 GMT -5
Instead of telling stories why didn't you contact authorities about the abuse you saw? I'm not sure to whom you're talking, but you assume authorities are unaware of the treatment. Authorities, as you called them, would enforce any laws being broken and not necessarily what anyone would view as the human or otherwise. Just saying. I was referencing your comment about what you had seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:30:33 GMT -5
1.) There's a human way to process our food. 2.) That's called torture no matter what word you use 3.) To get them out of the chute they're spurred 4.) You ever been spurred? They hurt! Even the bull knows that. 5.) I don't see the horses laughing from being tickled, Instead they buck and kicked like they're being hurt. I wish we could ask them. 6.) Horses learn that strong bucking gets rid of the rider and any related pain caused by spurring. 5.2) This doesn't make it human or painless. Want someone to brand you? It's painless. All this stated, I like me a rodeo. I could tell stories, but I'm not ignorant to think the animal loves it. Right, you enjoy going to a rodeo so you can wear your Annie Oakley outfit. One may get the idea that you don't like me, or that you're trying to make a false claim of some sort. Do you have something you want to clarify?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 11:31:39 GMT -5
Instead of telling stories why didn't you contact authorities about the abuse you saw? I'm not sure to whom you're talking, but you assume authorities are unaware of the treatment. Authorities, as you called them, would enforce any laws being broken and not necessarily what anyone would view as the human or otherwise. Just saying. Well, I wasn't there. So sounds like are assuming they are aware if you did not report it. But why would you assume they are aware?
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Post by hank on Jun 4, 2023 12:24:28 GMT -5
Right, you enjoy going to a rodeo so you can wear your Annie Oakley outfit. One may get the idea that you don't like me, or that you're trying to make a false claim of some sort. Do you have something you want to clarify? Dale Evans?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 12:46:09 GMT -5
One may get the idea that you don't like me, or that you're trying to make a false claim of some sort. Do you have something you want to clarify? Dale Evans? Dale Evan? That doesn't clarify much.
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2023 18:23:43 GMT -5
I have been a to a few rodeos. Never saw any animals being harmed. They do horse riding. Ride a bull. And calf roping, etc Right? its not like its the Colosseum or anything. I have no problem with animal rights activists concerned over animals being harmed, but I find it funny coming from someone that defends the murder of innocent unborn babies even in the third trimester. I have been to a rodeo and never saw any animals harmed. Bull fighting or cock fighting and things like that are problematic to me, but I need to be convinced of what harm animals are suffering before making any judgment about rodeos. What are the issues?
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Post by John on Jun 5, 2023 18:24:22 GMT -5
YES, no doubt in my mind... I actually cheer for the horses and bulls when they are stomping and goring the riders that get tossed off... That does not surprise me.
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Post by apple on Jun 5, 2023 19:36:19 GMT -5
Right? its not like its the Colosseum or anything. I have no problem with animal rights activists concerned over animals being harmed, but I find it funny coming from someone that defends the murder of innocent unborn babies even in the third trimester. I have been to a rodeo and never saw any animals harmed. Bull fighting or cock fighting and things like that are problematic to me, but I need to be convinced of what harm animals are suffering before making any judgment about rodeos. What are the issues? Bless your heart, so nice to have you back!
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2023 15:40:31 GMT -5
I have no problem with animal rights activists concerned over animals being harmed, but I find it funny coming from someone that defends the murder of innocent unborn babies even in the third trimester. I have been to a rodeo and never saw any animals harmed. Bull fighting or cock fighting and things like that are problematic to me, but I need to be convinced of what harm animals are suffering before making any judgment about rodeos. What are the issues? Bless your heart, so nice to have you back! Thank you. That "bless your heart" is a nice touch. That is something we say a lot in the south.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2023 19:43:35 GMT -5
The rodeo animals are took way better care of than the running horses at races. You would not believe some things the trainers have put in horses veins to make run better and faster. But over time they all get caught.
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