New Vax?

[foxy]

Before this turns into yet another race related thread, I don't care what the race of the person is who says what the man in the following video said, it's about my agreement as a fellow human being that no one has the final say over what drugs I put in my body. If anyone agrees, go for it. Vax yourselves up the wazoo, wear a diving helmet  or hazmat suit for all I care if you truly believe it will prevent you from getting COVID. That's your CHOICE. 

I don't want to hear about vaccinations we took in our childhoods many decades ago. I do not trust the NWO and those in our current administration who have stated their goal is world depopulation. They can fund creating diseases and their "vaxes" but I'm not having it. If that becomes a jailable offense, then that proves who the fascists truly are.

[corrina]

I'm with you and this man all the way. I didn't have any covid vaccine and I'm not having any future vaccines.

[apple]

I believe there will be a massive amount of money going to pfiezer and a massive amount of vaccines that will expire because people are DONE. Most people...

[foxy]

Here's the irony for me, I'm pretty much a recluse due to health issues so I rarely go out or interact with people. I am close to 70 years of age and diabetic so I am in the "high risk" category for death by COVID. So the irony I spoke of is that I got COVID twice from fully vaxxed people I had to interact with because, although vaxxed & boostered, they got COVID multiple times anyway. My boyfriend had the same experiences as me.

Another interesting fact, my Covid experiences resulted in nothing more than a bad cold and a temporary loss of sense of smell & taste. I treated my symptoms with OTC meds and was over it faster than my vaxxed friend who had worse symptoms and who had given it to me.

[Springschick]

I am done with Covid vaccines, too. I got my two and a booster. I am in several high risk categories. All of the adults in my house were vaccinated, mainly to protect me. Out of all of us, I am the only one not to get Covid.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

[apple]

Aug 31, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -5 Springschick said:

I am done with Covid vaccines, too. I got my two and a booster. I am in several high risk categories. All of the adults in my house were vaccinated, mainly to protect me. Out of all of us, I am the only one not to get Covid.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Has that been proven?

[foxy]

Not from my personal experience apple. Like I said. I'm in the "high risk" group, but with no Vax I had milder symptoms and shorter bouts than the ultra vaxed/boostered friends who gave me COVID. Not only that, they've had all kinds of wonky health issues since the vax.

[Springschick]

Aug 31, 2023 13:49:33 GMT -5 apple said:

Aug 31, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -5 Springschick said:

I am done with Covid vaccines, too. I got my two and a booster. I am in several high risk categories. All of the adults in my house were vaccinated, mainly to protect me. Out of all of us, I am the only one not to get Covid.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Has that been proven?

It is too soon to tell. All evidence at this point would be anecdotal.

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -5 Springschick said:

I am done with Covid vaccines, too. I got my two and a booster. I am in several high risk categories. All of the adults in my house were vaccinated, mainly to protect me. Out of all of us, I am the only one not to get Covid.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Really?  Because clearly they said to get it so you don't catch or spread covid in  the beginning.  You know, did you all get a little bit of Polio as a child?  Just wondering how that would have been accepted.

And funny too that the CDC then CHANGED the definition of vaccine to coincide with this.  So, maybe call it a therapeutic instead because that is what they seem to claming it is. Something to mitigate not prevent.  

[Deleted]

But, for those who had it and boosters, they seem to have acquired covid several times. I had it  once but not again. I mean I guess they will say they didn't die, but apparently I didn't either.

[Deleted]

And, I have never told anyone to NOT get any vaccine or whatever they think is best for them, their situation and in conjunction with their doctor. I said from the beginning that i thought it would be very wise for the elderly or some other subsets to take it right away, not even knowing that much about it. But, I don't think there should be blanket medical recommendations made by politicians.

[Springschick]

Aug 31, 2023 20:24:27 GMT -5 @fuzzems said:

Aug 31, 2023 12:27:54 GMT -5 Springschick said:

I am done with Covid vaccines, too. I got my two and a booster. I am in several high risk categories. All of the adults in my house were vaccinated, mainly to protect me. Out of all of us, I am the only one not to get Covid.

Of course the vaccine was never meant to protect anyone from catching it, but to ultimately lessen the severity in case you did.

Really?  Because clearly they said to get it so you don't catch or spread covid in  the beginning.  You know, did you all get a little bit of Polio as a child?  Just wondering how that would have been accepted.

And funny too that the CDC then CHANGED the definition of vaccine to coincide with this.  So, maybe call it a therapeutic instead because that is what they seem to claming it is. Something to mitigate not prevent.  

And if you understand how vaccines actually work, it is easy to filter out the nonsense.

[Deleted]

Well it was pretty common knowledge how vaccines 'worked" until this one came along and they felt they had to change the definition.

[Deleted]

Frankly they squandered a lot of medical credibility and trust in all this. And this is going to have ramifications for a long time far beyond that vaccine.

[Springschick]

Aug 31, 2023 21:06:26 GMT -5 @fuzzems said:

Well it was pretty common knowledge how vaccines 'worked" until this one came along and they felt they had to change the definition.

Really? What changed with how vaccines work? Before this, there were never vaccinated people who still developed the condition they were vaccinated for?

Was this rushed? Indubitably. But any vaccination works to build antibodies. That hasn't changed. That is the purpose of vaccinations.

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2023 21:17:56 GMT -5 Springschick said:

Aug 31, 2023 21:06:26 GMT -5 @fuzzems said:

Well it was pretty common knowledge how vaccines 'worked" until this one came along and they felt they had to change the definition.

Really? What changed with how vaccines work? Before this, there were never vaccinated people who still developed the condition they were vaccinated for?

Was this rushed? Indubitably. But any vaccination works to build antibodies. That hasn't changed. That is the purpose of vaccinations.

What changed ?  Vaccines were to prevent ACQUIRING and to prevent SPREADING the disease.  So you got a little bit of polio then and also spread it?  Did you get a bit of small pox, etc?

You know what also builds antibodies?  Naturally acquired as well.

Look you can do what you wish to do.  And I have had the majority of vaccines.  But, i will never get another flu shot or take anymore of what they are pedaling.  You can do you and I will do me.

[Rusty]

No vaccines the pandemic is over

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2023 21:22:46 GMT -5 Rusty said:

No vaccines the pandemic is over

It's still out there but generally those things become less virulent and harmful over time.

[Springschick]

Aug 31, 2023 21:20:38 GMT -5 @fuzzems said:

Aug 31, 2023 21:17:56 GMT -5 Springschick said:

Really? What changed with how vaccines work? Before this, there were never vaccinated people who still developed the condition they were vaccinated for?

Was this rushed? Indubitably. But any vaccination works to build antibodies. That hasn't changed. That is the purpose of vaccinations.

What changed ?  Vaccines were to prevent ACQUIRING and to prevent SPREADING the disease.  So you got a little bit of polio then and also spread it?  Did you get a bit of small pox, etc?

You know what also builds antibodies?  Naturally acquired as well.

Look you can do what you wish to do.  And I have had the majority of vaccines.  But, i will never get another flu shot or take anymore of what they are pedaling.  You can do you and I will do me.

The process is still the same. The only reason that the vaccines prevented disease was because enough people developed immunity that the disease could no longer take hold. And yes, people did get milder cases of those diseases as herd immunity was being built.

Let's take a look at Varicella - Chicken Pox. Most people my age had them as children. Some had very light cases, some had monstrous cases. But, you only caught them once. Until, of course, that virus that lay dormant in your nerve cells fired back up and caused an extremely painful case of shingles. The varicella vaccine has made so that the younger generations (it came too late for my kids) don't have to worry about the pox, and later on shingles. The virus will still be out there, but herd immunity from vaccines will keep it at bay. And there will be those who still get infected, in spite of everything. Nothing in medicine is absolute.