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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 6:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 7:53:11 GMT -5
You can't solve centuries of damage created by color conscious policies and acts of individuals by suddenly becoming color blind. No, but that's the best way to go forward. We also need to fix the problems at the source and not punish innocent people who didn't participate in creating the damage. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 7:58:25 GMT -5
You can't solve centuries of damage created by color conscious policies and acts of individuals by suddenly becoming color blind. No, but that's the best way to go forward. We also need to fix the problems at the source and not punish innocent people who didn't participate in creating the damage. There is no going forward. The left does not want unity. They do not want tolerance. They want to dictate and control. And if you disagree or won't comply, they have no qualms about putting people in prison for decades who are the political opposition. No different than Kim Jong . |
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 8:06:23 GMT -5
Because they not only have benefitted from the damage, but they continue adding to the damage. Bullshit. There's no inherent advantage to having white skin. That hasn't been true for a long time. |
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 8:27:22 GMT -5
You guys have whined about AA and finally got it killed despite the fact whites benefitted more from it If that's true then that makes the SC decision even better. But the schools are finding ways around this so they'll still get the demographics that they're looking for. |
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 8:52:02 GMT -5
So all this does is allow for white men to openly discriminate. That's literally stupid. Do really think that the far left elite institutions that are 100 percent PRO AA are suddenly going to openly discriminate? |
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 10:22:06 GMT -5
America will be moving back towards open discrimination. No it won't. Americans do not need rules and regulations to make them do the right thing. |
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Post by sb on Sept 12, 2023 12:37:31 GMT -5
sb, it's this simple, if this was about colorblindness then there would never have been any objection to a policy that was created to fix the damage caused by a minimum of 190 years of color conscious policy. Instead, from the very beginning whites began whining as if America had always been a nation that did things based on merit. You're partially right. We used to be a merit based society but mostly just for the people who could afford a proper education and that usually meant white people. That said, there were still a whole lot of white people who didn't have that kind of access. Poor people, kids who had to quit school to help support their families and so on. The answer is not to force square pegs into round holes by putting the less qualified into positions where they can't excel, the answer is to provide those people with the education they need so that they ARE qualified for those positions. That goes for every American, I don't give a crap what your ethnicity or gender is. And teaching kids to be good, compliant little social warriors is not going to fix anything. Make sure these kids have a firm grounding in math, english, history, social studies, civics, a foreign language or two. Challenge them to think for themselves. Tell them they can succeed regardless of their backgrounds, that's important. You do that and we'll end up with a truly color blind society and you will have fixed the damage that racism and classism wrought. |
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Post by hank on Sept 12, 2023 21:51:17 GMT -5
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Post by sb on Sept 13, 2023 6:27:20 GMT -5
Race is complex and you don't fix damage created by any by simply declaring that we will stop noticing the reason for the problem. Did you not read what I wrote? |
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Post by sb on Sept 13, 2023 8:45:41 GMT -5
You will not fix the huge racial wealth gap by declaring how we are now colorblind. That's not what I said. And you're not going to fix any wealth gap by placing unqualified people in positions where they can't succeed in lieu if getting everyone the best education and training possible and allowing the cream to rise to the top. |
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Post by Springschick on Sept 13, 2023 13:46:40 GMT -5
@im2, I have been noticing that you seem to denigrate almost anything a white person suggests, yet you have also said that it is whites who have to fix the problems. Are you actually expecting whites to solve issues from a black perspective? How does that look? Is there anywhere where wealth is proportionate to percentage of population in a greatly diverse population? If so, how was it achieved, and how long did it take to get there?
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Post by Rusty on Sept 13, 2023 20:31:17 GMT -5
Hey I'm color blind. Who here can say they are in a relationship with someone of the opposite color? Thankfully I live in a state where it's acceptable
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Post by sb on Sept 13, 2023 20:49:29 GMT -5
Hey I'm color blind. Who here can say they are in a relationship with someone of the opposite color? Thankfully I live in a state where it's acceptable Where is it not? |
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Post by Rusty on Sept 13, 2023 21:10:00 GMT -5
Hey I'm color blind. Who here can say they are in a relationship with someone of the opposite color? Thankfully I live in a state where it's acceptable Where is it not? Accepted everywhere but part of the country came kicking and screaming. Like down south. Would never visit ANY of those states.  |
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Post by Springschick on Sept 13, 2023 21:56:58 GMT -5
Hey I'm color blind. Who here can say they are in a relationship with someone of the opposite color? Thankfully I live in a state where it's acceptable I was in a relationship with a black guy named Kenny back in the early 80's. He was pretty cool. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 22:24:41 GMT -5
Accepted everywhere but part of the country came kicking and screaming. Like down south. Would never visit ANY of those states. So all of the people there are bad people?? |
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Post by raven on Sept 14, 2023 5:19:57 GMT -5
Accepted everywhere but part of the country came kicking and screaming. Like down south. Would never visit ANY of those states. I'll be honest with you, all my friends that are bipoc (people from those red states indicated on your map) will tell you that the further north you go the worse the racism gets. She will not travel north unless her husband gets stationed there. I have had other bipoc friends tell me the same. I think the south is more open about it but it is rampant everywhere. |
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Post by foxy on Sept 14, 2023 19:24:03 GMT -5
Hey I'm color blind. Who here can say they are in a relationship with someone of the opposite color? Thankfully I live in a state where it's acceptable I was in a relationship with a black guy named Kenny back in the early 80's. He was pretty cool. I was engaged to a Trinidadian, dated a guy from China, a guy from Puerto Rico and a couple of black guys. Didn't make a difference to me one way or the other. My parents and friends were very accepting, no problem there. I've had black friends at every stage of my life. Many times I was the only white person at big family and church events. I never felt unwelcome or out of place. |
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