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Post by Springschick on Mar 11, 2024 22:00:23 GMT -5
Rehabbing does protect from crime. You are just too intentionally short sighted to understand. not govts job. You said the government's job was to protect from crime. Now you say it is not. Which is it?
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Post by mrright on Mar 11, 2024 23:03:36 GMT -5
how you figure?
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Post by Springschick on Mar 11, 2024 23:26:56 GMT -5
Think about it real hard overnight, and check in tomorrow morning. I am headed to bed.
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Post by sb on Mar 12, 2024 6:27:45 GMT -5
Addicts can't hold a job generally so they have to fund their habit somehow. That somehow usually means crime. Your choices are to put them in jail (very expensive) whereupon once they are released they go right back to doing what they did before or getting them in a rehab where at least you have a chance to rehabilitate. And again, we pay taxes on alcohol, weed, etc already. Those funds should be allocated towards helping the people who made a big mistake in their lives become productive citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 6:38:00 GMT -5
You address homeless by creating a society that allows people to be able to take care of themselves. Good jobs which allow you to pay for housing, food, etc. But, when you crash society, let lawlessness rule, allow people to walk out of target with whatever they please, let drugs pour in, push up inflationary costs, etc, then of course there is going to be even more homelessness.
And when you create a society that has no interest other than one's own feelings, then there is nothing larger or beyond that person. There is nothing that motivates or propels them other than their feels of the day. Used to be people felt moral, religious, spiritual duties and obligations to each other and society and their communities. Well, that has been destroyed thru years of public school indoctrination. And here we are. Hospitals and charities arose out of religious concerns not some banal govt benevolence. So now there is widespread apathy. And seems the answer is more towards self annihilation now.
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Post by Springschick on Mar 12, 2024 8:20:25 GMT -5
Addicts can't hold a job generally so they have to fund their habit somehow. That somehow usually means crime. Your choices are to put them in jail (very expensive) whereupon once they are released they go right back to doing what they did before or getting them in a rehab where at least you have a chance to rehabilitate. And again, we pay taxes on alcohol, weed, etc already. Those funds should be allocated towards helping the people who made a big mistake in their lives become productive citizens. Thank you, sb. That is it exactly.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 8:31:23 GMT -5
Think about it real hard overnight, and check in tomorrow morning. I am headed to bed. you protect from crimes by punishing the crap out of those that do them...not by kissing their butt and giving them taxpayer money.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 8:33:06 GMT -5
Addicts can't hold a job generally so they have to fund their habit somehow. That somehow usually means crime. Your choices are to put them in jail (very expensive) whereupon once they are released they go right back to doing what they did before or getting them in a rehab where at least you have a chance to rehabilitate. And again, we pay taxes on alcohol, weed, etc already. Those funds should be allocated towards helping the people who made a big mistake in their lives become productive citizens. . bull..thats rewarding them so punish them when they do a crime.
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Post by sb on Mar 12, 2024 8:35:40 GMT -5
Addicts can't hold a job generally so they have to fund their habit somehow. That somehow usually means crime. Your choices are to put them in jail (very expensive) whereupon once they are released they go right back to doing what they did before or getting them in a rehab where at least you have a chance to rehabilitate. And again, we pay taxes on alcohol, weed, etc already. Those funds should be allocated towards helping the people who made a big mistake in their lives become productive citizens. . bull..thats rewarding them so punish them when they do a crime. While we're on the subject, using drugs should not be a crime. Those are stupid laws.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 8:37:19 GMT -5
Addicts can't hold a job generally so they have to fund their habit somehow. That somehow usually means crime. Your choices are to put them in jail (very expensive) whereupon once they are released they go right back to doing what they did before or getting them in a rehab where at least you have a chance to rehabilitate. And again, we pay taxes on alcohol, weed, etc already. Those funds should be allocated towards helping the people who made a big mistake in their lives become productive citizens. Thank you, sb . That is it exactly. if funding their lives matters so much ...start a charity for the fools who want to fund them to waste their money on.
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Post by sb on Mar 12, 2024 8:46:21 GMT -5
Thank you, sb . That is it exactly. if funding their lives matters so much ...start a charity for the fools who want to fund them to waste their money on. You'd rather your tax money go for junkets to Las Vegas so your local pols can get schmoozed by lobbyists?
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Post by Springschick on Mar 12, 2024 8:47:55 GMT -5
So, the only thing you believe in is being punitive?
That explains a lot. I certainly hope you do not have children.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 8:50:07 GMT -5
if funding their lives matters so much ...start a charity for the fools who want to fund them to waste their money on. You'd rather your tax money go for junkets to Las Vegas so your local pols can get schmoozed by lobbyists? so you think thats taxpayers job too?
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 8:52:52 GMT -5
So, the only thing you believe in is being punitive? That explains a lot. I certainly hope you do not have children. oh well i do...in his 30's and not a drug addict homeless leech, like you seem to want to support. raise your kids right. they arent taxpayers responsibility.
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Post by sb on Mar 12, 2024 8:59:55 GMT -5
You'd rather your tax money go for junkets to Las Vegas so your local pols can get schmoozed by lobbyists? so you think thats taxpayers job too? I'm saying that we're already being taxed. You can do this or you can do that.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 9:11:50 GMT -5
so end it. public service is used to be a service. not a job . simple solution
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Post by Springschick on Mar 12, 2024 9:18:11 GMT -5
So, the only thing you believe in is being punitive? That explains a lot. I certainly hope you do not have children. oh well i do...in his 30's and not a drug addict homeless leech, like you seem to want to support. raise your kids right. they arent taxpayers responsibility. Neither are mine. I actually have empathy. I have volunteered with the homeless for years. Some are like you say. The majority were not. I have seen what the power of kindness and support can do to help a person turn themselves around. So yeah, I do support assistance programs, and my tax dollars being used for those purposes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2024 9:23:54 GMT -5
I think there should mandatory inpatient treatment. We need a lot more inpatient mental health and institutions. Some people need to be institutionalized at least temporarily and some permanently.
If someone comes into legal trouble due to drugs, they should be placed into mandatory detox for several months. There should be no option to leave a mandatory detox program. And yes they should be locked in and monitored. How can someone recover until the drugs are out of the brain and system? There is no ability to make sound decision until someone is fully detoxed and that takes months for their brain to recover.
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 9:26:07 GMT -5
and did you get paid for that "volunteer " stuff?
the problem with you supporting tax $$ going towards it . you get your way..and those against it dont. why dont you just donate to or start a charity? because people wont donate? if the govt solves problems..why do they just keep getting worse?
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Post by mrright on Mar 12, 2024 9:27:15 GMT -5
I think there should mandatory inpatient treatment. We need a lot more inpatient mental health and institutions. Some people need to be institutionalized at least temporarily and some permanently. If someone comes into legal trouble due to drugs, they should be placed into mandatory detox for several months. There should be no option to leave a mandatory detox program. And yes they should be locked in and monitored. How can someone recover until the drugs are out of the brain and system? There is no ability to make sound decision until someone is fully detoxed and that takes months for their brain to recover. fine,,but not at taxpayers expense
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