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Post by deyana on Apr 26, 2024 19:42:28 GMT -5
A Canadian province will re-criminalise the use of hard drugs in public, partly rolling back a landmark policy meant to help tackle a deadly opioid crisis.Police will soon have the power to again address drug use in all public places, including hospitals, restaurants, parks and beaches. "While we are caring and compassionate for those struggling with addiction, we do not accept street disorder that makes communities feel unsafe," provincial Premier David Eby said in a statement announcing the change on Friday. It is unclear when the new rules will come into force. The province said it is working with the federal government to "urgently" change the policy. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68910208
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Post by deyana on Apr 26, 2024 19:44:18 GMT -5
I think this is a move in the right direction. Going back to making the use of these drugs illegal is the best thing to do.
It obviously did not work, just made it easier for drug users to access hard drugs and then use them in public.
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Post by apple on Apr 26, 2024 19:45:17 GMT -5
A Canadian province will re-criminalise the use of hard drugs in public, partly rolling back a landmark policy meant to help tackle a deadly opioid crisis.Police will soon have the power to again address drug use in all public places, including hospitals, restaurants, parks and beaches. "While we are caring and compassionate for those struggling with addiction, we do not accept street disorder that makes communities feel unsafe," provincial Premier David Eby said in a statement announcing the change on Friday. It is unclear when the new rules will come into force. The province said it is working with the federal government to "urgently" change the policy. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68910208 Oregon is a prime example of what happens. Laws are laws. Lets enforce them. |
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Apr 27, 2024 11:09:47 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree.
Legalising drugs is the lesser of two evils.
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Post by apple on Apr 27, 2024 11:48:44 GMT -5
Its a complicated issue.
BC went a step further and provided a "safe drug supply".
The free drugs not only increased the amount of drug addicts on the streets but also these drugs ended up being sold on the street.
These people need treatment for addiction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2024 13:55:14 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Legalising drugs is the lesser of two evils. No. Legalizing gives the air of legitimacy. Gives the air of safety. Gives the air of legality. Nope. Legalizing drugs helps no one. |
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Apr 27, 2024 18:47:36 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Legalising drugs is the lesser of two evils. No. Legalizing gives the air of legitimacy. Gives the air of safety. Gives the air of legality. Nope. Legalizing drugs helps no one. Criminalising drugs helps no one but the criminals. It simply IS safer to have controlled production of drugs. And something that IS legal will inevitably have "the air of legality" This is the problem with authoritarians like you; you always want to control everything. As a libertarian I always advocate the greatest possible degree of freedom |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2024 20:16:18 GMT -5
No. Legalizing gives the air of legitimacy. Gives the air of safety. Gives the air of legality. Nope. Legalizing drugs helps no one. Criminalising drugs helps no one but the criminals. It simply IS safer to have controlled production of drugs. And something that IS legal will inevitably have "the air of legality" This is the problem with authoritarians like you; you always want to control everything. As a libertarian I always advocate the greatest possible degree of freedom No. It's actually not safer. And the cities that have tried looser drug laws have turned into tent cities with feces lined streets. And those cities are now returning to more sane drug laws realizing the harm it inflicts on society. |
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Post by apple on Apr 27, 2024 21:06:36 GMT -5
Portugal
Police take the person to a police station and weigh the drugs. If the weight exceeds amounts specified for personal use, then the person is charged and tried as a drug trafficker and can receive prison sentences of 1–14 years. Otherwise, the next day, the person appears at the Commission for the Dissuasion of Drug Addiction for an interview by a psychologist or social worker. Next comes an appearance before a three-person panel that will provide guidance about how to stop drug use.
A fast track leads the person to any accepted services. Refusal of such services can lead to required community service, a fine, and confiscation of belongings to pay the fine.
In summary, drug possession remains illegal, drug possession for personal use is decriminalized, and comprehensive treatment and recovery options become available as a viable next step for the identified user of illegal drugs.
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Post by mrright on Apr 28, 2024 9:22:40 GMT -5
just another thing govt clowns didnt bother thinking through
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Apr 28, 2024 10:52:18 GMT -5
Criminalising drugs helps no one but the criminals. It simply IS safer to have controlled production of drugs. And something that IS legal will inevitably have "the air of legality" This is the problem with authoritarians like you; you always want to control everything. As a libertarian I always advocate the greatest possible degree of freedom No. It's actually not safer. And the cities that have tried looser drug laws have turned into tent cities with feces lined streets. And those cities are now returning to more sane drug laws realizing the harm it inflicts on society. Far greater harm results from criminalisation. That policy creates crime and gives drug dealers a ready market. Opposing legalisation is being pro-criminal |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2024 10:59:23 GMT -5
No. It's actually not safer. And the cities that have tried looser drug laws have turned into tent cities with feces lined streets. And those cities are now returning to more sane drug laws realizing the harm it inflicts on society. Far greater harm results from criminalisation. That policy creates crime and gives drug dealers a ready market. Opposing legalisation is being pro-criminal No. It's been that legalizing hard drugs creates more criminality. But, you can keep squawking nonsense. |
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Post by apple on Apr 28, 2024 18:52:12 GMT -5
Far greater harm results from criminalisation. That policy creates crime and gives drug dealers a ready market. Opposing legalisation is being pro-criminal No. It's been that legalizing hard drugs creates more criminality. But, you can keep squawking nonsense. I know that most police here dont bother with charging for small amounts. The revolving door gets them out before police even finish paperwork so why bother. |
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Post by deyana on Apr 28, 2024 19:24:56 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Legalising drugs is the lesser of two evils. I think that is what British Columbia was testing out. Seems it is not the case. Making hard drugs legal has only increased their use and it is all out in the open as well. B.C. sets new record for overdose drug deaths |
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Apr 28, 2024 19:32:32 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. Legalising drugs is the lesser of two evils. I think that is what British Columbia was testing out. Seems it is not the case. Making hard drugs legal has only increased their use and it is all out in the open as well. B.C. sets new record for overdose drug deathsIn Britain various police officers were appointed as "drug czars" with the remit to crack down on drugs. All of them became convinced that legalisation was the only policy that made sense. |
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Post by mikemarshall3 on Apr 28, 2024 19:36:35 GMT -5
Far greater harm results from criminalisation. That policy creates crime and gives drug dealers a ready market. Opposing legalisation is being pro-criminal No. It's been that legalizing hard drugs creates more criminality. But, you can keep squawking nonsense. Like most people who pretend to be tough on crime you actually advocate policies that are actively pro-criminal. I will assume that you are simply brainwashed and/or ignorant rather than being consciously dishonest. |
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Post by TheInfiniteSadness on May 7, 2024 0:08:48 GMT -5
March 24, 2023Toronto Public Health continues to move forward with evidence-based public health approach to drug useConsidering what happened in BC, so much for the evidence. linkMay 5th, 2024Political fireworks about drug decriminalization leave Toronto request in limboI'm guessing they're using the evidence now that it didn't work in BC link
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