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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 22:29:12 GMT -5
Robin DiAngelo, the author of the bestselling antiracist book, White Fragility, insisted that racial minorities should separate themselves from white Americans. “People of color need to get away from White people and have some community with each other,” DiAngelo chuckled during a webinar entitled,“Racial Justice: The Next Frontier,” hosted on March 1. link
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 22:29:51 GMT -5
Does seem to be a step backwards in race messaging.
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Post by deyana on Mar 21, 2023 22:36:24 GMT -5
Who agrees with Robin DiAngelo on here?
Is segregation the way to solve all the race related problems we have today?
(I don't think she meant it quite in that way mind you)
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Post by deyana on Mar 21, 2023 22:40:24 GMT -5
With her being Italian or having Italian heritage she must know that it was not that long ago that her clan were not considered white enough to be truly white.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 22:41:15 GMT -5
She's the White Fragility book author, and the one that coined the term.
There are people here that agree with her.
Seems a bit odd for her to be talking about segregating.
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Post by deyana on Mar 21, 2023 22:42:15 GMT -5
Well then that makes sense..
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Post by deyana on Mar 21, 2023 22:50:54 GMT -5
The thing is I really don't see the kind of divide in real life, as it seems there is portrayed to be, between the different races. There are many mixed raced couples, no one seems to be hating on others due to their race and color (although there are always exceptions of course). What I mean is it's more the exception to be a racist rather then the norm. Does anyone else see this? Agree with me? Or am I just not observant enough of what goes on around me?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 22:53:06 GMT -5
I don't see the divide either, not as it's portrayed at times.
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Post by deyana on Mar 21, 2023 23:18:11 GMT -5
Yes, I would say that racism is a bigger issue in the US than here.
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Post by sb on Mar 22, 2023 8:44:20 GMT -5
The thing is I really don't see the kind of divide in real life, as it seems there is portrayed to be, between the different races. There are many mixed raced couples, no one seems to be hating on others due to their race and color (although there are always exceptions of course). What I mean is it's more the exception to be a racist rather then the norm. Does anyone else see this? Agree with me? Or am I just not observant enough of what goes on around me? It seems to be the norm here too. I think that once upon a time it was quite normal and publicly acceptable for people to be racist but today things have been almost completely reversed. I think that the reason that there are so many accusations of racism today is testament to the fact that almost everyone sees it as being a completely socially unacceptable position. Accusations of racism have power. I still see some of it online in various places but to be honest what I mostly see is anti-Semitism.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 10:31:41 GMT -5
Who agrees with Robin DiAngelo on here? Is segregation the way to solve all the race related problems we have today? (I don't think she meant it quite in that way mind you) Yes I agree, it was not what she said. She does not believe in segregation. Funny how they call her a "White author" now. lol
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Post by sb on Mar 22, 2023 10:39:32 GMT -5
Who agrees with Robin DiAngelo on here? Is segregation the way to solve all the race related problems we have today? (I don't think she meant it quite in that way mind you) Yes I agree, it was not what she said. She does not believe in segregation. Funny how they call her a "White author" now. lol But she does believe in a limited amount of segregation? That's what she appears to be saying.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 10:41:09 GMT -5
Yes I agree, it was not what she said. She does not believe in segregation. Funny how they call her a "White author" now. lol But she does believe in a limited amount of segregation? That's what she appears to be saying. No I do not believe that is what she is saying.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 10:43:56 GMT -5
It seems to me you are TRYING to make this something it is not. The author is supporting people who experience racism to get together as more of a cultural support. Nothing more.
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Post by sb on Mar 22, 2023 10:48:51 GMT -5
It seems to me you are TRYING to make this something it is not. The author is supporting people who experience racism to get together as more of a cultural support. Nothing more. That's not what she appears to be saying at all. “People of color need to get away from White people and have some community with each other,” DiAngelo chuckled during a webinar entitled,“Racial Justice: The Next Frontier,” hosted on March 1.
Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023,we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 10:50:18 GMT -5
It seems to me you are TRYING to make this something it is not. The author is supporting people who experience racism to get together as more of a cultural support. Nothing more. That's not what she appears to be saying at all. “People of color need to get away from White people and have some community with each other,” DiAngelo chuckled during a webinar entitled,“Racial Justice: The Next Frontier,” hosted on March 1.
Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023,we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added.Ya, it actually is what she is saying. Supporting people who experience racism to get together as more of a cultural support. Nothing more.
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Post by sb on Mar 22, 2023 11:03:00 GMT -5
That's not what she appears to be saying at all. “People of color need to get away from White people and have some community with each other,” DiAngelo chuckled during a webinar entitled,“Racial Justice: The Next Frontier,” hosted on March 1.
Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023,we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added.Ya, it actually is what she is saying. Supporting people who experience racism to get together as more of a cultural support. Nothing more. By excluding people who refuse to concede to anti-racist teachings from the workplace. That's not "cultural support" pomme, you can get that at your church or community center. She is advocating that people who do not comply with her belief system be punished by being excluded from the ability to be employed.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 11:09:29 GMT -5
Robin DiAngelo, Phd:"a racist policy is any policy with a racially inequitable outcome. Look at your organization’s policies. If they are producing racially inequitable outcomes, get them back on the table and keep working."
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Post by sb on Mar 22, 2023 11:11:24 GMT -5
Robin DiAngelo, Phd:"a racist policy is any policy with a racially inequitable outcome. Look at your organization’s policies. If they are producing racially inequitable outcomes, get them back on the table and keep working."
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I'd prefer just to treat everyone equally and manage to their individual abilities and temperaments.
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Post by apple on Mar 22, 2023 11:13:03 GMT -5
Robin DiAngelo, Phd:"a racist policy is any policy with a racially inequitable outcome. Look at your organization’s policies. If they are producing racially inequitable outcomes, get them back on the table and keep working."
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I'd prefer just to treat everyone equally and manage to their individual abilities and temperaments. Ya because dealing with racism in the workplace is ...hard.
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