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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 9:23:40 GMT -5
You decided to lecture on what blacks need to do as if whites aren't contributors to the problem. Robin DiAngelo was the one lecturing "blacks" on what they need to do and how society needs to exclude from the workforce people who do not comply with her toxic leftist belief system. That is an interesting take on racism in the workplace being attacked.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 9:31:46 GMT -5
Robin DiAngelo was the one lecturing "blacks" on what they need to do and how society needs to exclude from the workforce people who do not comply with her toxic leftist belief system. That is an interesting take on racism in the workplace being attacked. It's literally what she said pomme.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 10:27:57 GMT -5
That is an interesting take on racism in the workplace being attacked. It's literally what she said pomme. That is what your take is sb. I do not believe that is what she said. In fact I am quite certain.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 10:37:04 GMT -5
It's literally what she said pomme. That is what your take is sb. I do not believe that is what she said. In fact I am quite certain. Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023, we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 10:40:45 GMT -5
That is what your take is sb. I do not believe that is what she said. In fact I am quite certain. Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023, we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added.Who do you think the resistant are?
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 10:46:52 GMT -5
Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
“In 2023, we have to see the ability to engage in these conversations with some nuance and some skill as a basic qualification and if you can’t do that, you’re just simply not qualified in today’s workplace,” DiAngelo said as the panel of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) consultants nodded in agreement.
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,”DiAngelo added. Who do you think the resistant are? People who resist "engaging in these conversations with some nuance and some skill" as defined by DiAngelo.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 10:48:28 GMT -5
Who do you think the resistant are? People who resist "engaging in these conversations with some nuance and some skill" as defined by DiAngelo. Which conversations exactly?
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 10:52:05 GMT -5
People who resist "engaging in these conversations with some nuance and some skill" as defined by DiAngelo. Which conversations exactly? "Antiracist teachings" as defined by DiAngelo.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 10:53:09 GMT -5
Structural racism is a reality in the American workplace. What DiAngelo is speaking to is something that is happening organically. People cannot continue to ignore racism in the workplace, it is not acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 11:03:48 GMT -5
Structural racism is a reality in the American workplace. And you would know this how ?
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 11:14:08 GMT -5
People cannot continue to ignore racism in the workplace, it is not acceptable. Agreed. And nobody is suggesting that we do. If there is an issue then it needs to be addressed. As I said before, I would have zero tolerance for any sort of racism, bigotry, or sexual abuse of any kind in an organization that I ran. That said, I would expect all of my employees to be capable of understanding this without having to have a preemptive "conversation" about it. In other words, I'd treat them like adults. And I definitely wouldn't ask them about their freaking politics before hiring them. That would have nothing to do with the mission of the organization which, in most cases, would be to produce some product and make a profit. As long as they remained production employees, did their jobs and didn't bother anyone I'd be fine with them. As someone I know once said,"I don't have to take them home with me."
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 11:26:37 GMT -5
People cannot continue to ignore racism in the workplace, it is not acceptable. Agreed. And nobody is suggesting that we do. If there is an issue then it needs to be addressed. As I said before, I would have zero tolerance for any sort of racism, bigotry, or sexual abuse of any kind in an organization that I ran. That said, I would expect all of my employees to be capable of understanding this without having to have a preemptive "conversation" about it. In other words, I'd treat them like adults. And I definitely wouldn't ask them about their freaking politics before hiring them. That would have nothing to do with the mission of the organization which, in most cases, would be to produce some product and make a profit. As long as they remained production employees, did their jobs and didn't bother anyone I'd be fine with them. As someone I know once said,"I don't have to take them home with me." In a hiring package, its quite okay to mention racism is not tolerated.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 11:37:42 GMT -5
Agreed. And nobody is suggesting that we do. If there is an issue then it needs to be addressed. As I said before, I would have zero tolerance for any sort of racism, bigotry, or sexual abuse of any kind in an organization that I ran. That said, I would expect all of my employees to be capable of understanding this without having to have a preemptive "conversation" about it. In other words, I'd treat them like adults. And I definitely wouldn't ask them about their freaking politics before hiring them. That would have nothing to do with the mission of the organization which, in most cases, would be to produce some product and make a profit. As long as they remained production employees, did their jobs and didn't bother anyone I'd be fine with them. As someone I know once said,"I don't have to take them home with me." In a hiring package, its quite okay to mention racism is not tolerated. I'm okay with that. Racism, sexism, bigotry of any kind cannot be tolerated and saying so right up front is fine.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 11:40:03 GMT -5
In a hiring package, its quite okay to mention racism is not tolerated. I'm okay with that. Racism, sexism, bigotry of any kind cannot be tolerated and saying so right up front is fine. So then why do you have a problem with "weeding out" racism in the workplace? You seem to be protecting racists. Yet you say it is not okay?
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 11:40:15 GMT -5
That's exactly what she was saying. If there's more that changes the meaning of what I've seen I'm open to looking at it but for now it looks exactly like what it is.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 11:41:13 GMT -5
I'm okay with that. Racism, sexism, bigotry of any kind cannot be tolerated and saying so right up front is fine. So then why do you have a problem with "weeding out" racism in the workplace? You seem to be protecting racists. Yet you say it is not okay? Go back and review what I've already said. I think that I've covered this.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 11:46:38 GMT -5
SB, wants a world where no one talks about race or racism thinking that will make the behavior stop. Oh fer crissake, we're talking about the workplace, not the world. SMHS. If you want ideological purity go join the Nazi or Communist party. Me? I like diversity.
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 11:52:08 GMT -5
So then why do you have a problem with "weeding out" racism in the workplace? You seem to be protecting racists. Yet you say it is not okay? Go back and review what I've already said. I think that I've covered this. I have read what you are saying and find it contradictory. I believe that racist policy should be crystal clear in the hiring process. That is not a toxic discussion. Weeding out racists is not toxic. Racism is toxic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 12:09:10 GMT -5
As a white, 2nd gen American of Italian heritage my advice to black people would be the exact opposite. Try to make friends with people of other races. More togetherness is what we need. Our children need to be brought up colorblind and enjoy making friends with others who don't have to look like themselves. Finding the common values and beliefs we share is what breaks down barriers. For me personally, it came naturally as a born again Christian. I can feel a sense of familiarity and comfort being in the presence of other true believers regardless of race. I have black "Aunties" and "cousins." We visit each other, go on vacations together and, of course, go to each other's churches and worship together. The strongest force in the world is love, it can cover a multitude of sins and conquer hate. The only people I avoid like the plague are hate mongers who are on a mission to set the world on fire. JMA started this thread and people like him are part of the problem. Really ? And hows that ? (Bolded) Give me the lowdown, spare no detail. I merely posted an article about an author. You didn't like her segregation message ? Last I checked, I had nothing to do with what she was saying in the article.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 12:24:56 GMT -5
Go back and review what I've already said. I think that I've covered this. I have read what you are saying and find it contradictory. I believe that racist policy should be crystal clear in the hiring process. That is not a toxic discussion. Weeding out racists is not toxic. Racism is toxic. What I'm opposed to are these ideological purity tests, the type that leftists continuously seem to want to impose on everyone. We see examples of this all the time like in the censorship of social media or those little brownshirts at Stanford who can't stand to hear a divergent opinion. As far as I'm concerned, if you can do the job and you're not bothering anyone else you're good. It's only when you cross the line that we'll have to have a "conversation."
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