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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 12:51:22 GMT -5
Weeding out racists is not toxic. Racism is toxic. You guys keep pretending that this is about "weeding out racism" when it's actually about punishing anyone that doesn't think exactly like you.
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Post by sb on Mar 23, 2023 12:53:20 GMT -5
sb, Saying you have zero tolerance and making zero tolerance a policy that is followed are 2 different things. Sure. I would have a policy in the employee guide that states that racism, etc is not tolerated and are grounds for dismissal. Simple. Why do I a have to say the same thing over and over again?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 14:49:32 GMT -5
All's I want to know how I'm 'part of the problem', still haven't gotten an answer for that. Is it that I don't agree with her segregation message ?
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 15:00:34 GMT -5
All's I want to know how I'm 'part of the problem', still haven't gotten an answer for that. Is it that I don't agree with her segregation message ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 15:05:13 GMT -5
All's I want to know how I'm 'part of the problem', still haven't gotten an answer for that. Is it that I don't agree with her segregation message ? The presupposition (projection) being I'm part of the problem. Still waiting for an answer. Do you have the answer ?
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Post by apple on Mar 23, 2023 15:09:53 GMT -5
The presupposition (projection) being I'm part of the problem. Still waiting for an answer. Do you have the answer ? John doesn't have a son.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 15:13:26 GMT -5
Fallacy fallacy is a type of logical fallacy that is based on false claims, but is logically coherent1. It is also an argument that assumes that another argument is wrong because it contains a fallacy, regardless of whether the fallacy affects the validity of the conclusion2. For example, rejecting yoga as a relaxing activity because it is natural, or accepting smoking pot as a relaxing activity because it is natural, are both fallacy fallacies link
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 15:14:20 GMT -5
Here's the original projection or presupposition from im.
"JMA started this thread and people like him are part of the problem"
He doesn't even state what the problem is.
Is he 'simple trolling'?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 15:15:24 GMT -5
Not the one to be deflected with nonsense... All's I want to know how I'm 'part of the problem', still haven't gotten an answer for that. Is it that I don't agree with her segregation message ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 17:00:37 GMT -5
JMA, There is no projection. And your using a common tactic people with your problem use. Your views on race are pretty apparent but I'll play. Robin DiAngelo, the author of the bestselling antiracist book, White Fragility, insisted that racial minorities should separate themselves from white Americans. “People of color need to get away from White people and have some community with each other,” DiAngelo chuckled during a webinar entitled,“Racial Justice: The Next Frontier,” hosted on March 1. Did DeAngelo really insist that racial minorities get away from whites? No. So why did you only post that statement? Ok, I'll play with you. As requested by deyana, couple of lines followed by the link. (bolded) Affirmative action is racism in it's purest form. Selection by race. You'll have to do better than this usual gish gallop. Your problem is you can't get past your own narrative to see both sides. Covert racism, so secret you can hardly tell it's there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 19:06:36 GMT -5
Now this is an interesting take on racial harmony. Later on in the panel discussion, DiAngelo went on to suggest that people who do not concede to antiracist teachings do not belong in modern workforces.
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Post by foxy on Mar 23, 2023 19:30:07 GMT -5
So I disagreed with a white woman's advice for black people to segregate from white people. Oh the horror, just shoot me for saying I believe in just the opposite. What a terrible, racist person I am to suggest we need more love and to find common ground to bring everyone together as one race, the human race. What was I thinking?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 22:10:42 GMT -5
So I disagreed with a white woman's advice for black people to segregate from white people. Oh the horror, just shoot me for saying I believe in just the opposite. What a terrible, racist person I am to suggest we need more love and to find common ground to bring everyone together as one race, the human race. What was I thinking? I feel the same way. The only time I see the public in any number is at the roller rink where I'm a manager and DJ. Our usual crowd is about 30% black and I get along fine with everyone there, for 16 years running at this rink. Gee, skin color doesn't even get noticed as we hang and have a good time.
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Post by foxy on Mar 23, 2023 22:32:23 GMT -5
Some seem to get angrier the more they hear about people of different races coming together and loving each other. They even make false statements like "Conservatives are racist against black people." Excuse me but that's a lie on several levels not the least of which is that all black people think alike and cannot be conservatives by virtue of the color of their skin.
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Post by Rusty on Mar 23, 2023 23:28:01 GMT -5
I've never considered Republicans or conservatives racist. Neither does my lady. The thing we agree on is trump is a lying self centered person. It's pretty obvious seeing his speeches etc.
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Post by foxy on Mar 24, 2023 2:36:12 GMT -5
Little if none of these "racism" threads actually have to do with real racism. Truth to be told its all about politics. Who is the party solely in charge of majority black communities for decades? Why are so many of those communities failing? Why are they not shining examples of opportunity, prosperity and safety being lead by the leaders of the only party they are expected to follow without question? Why is it that those leaders, both black & white, get rich and choose to live in mansions with their own private security? Why arent those leaders feet held to the fire for failure to serve the people who faithfully keep electing them? Instead they redirect the justifiable anger of their constituents by accusing the party they never elect as the cause of their misery. They use loaded terms like racist and white privilege to stir up mistrust and anger in their base. This insures they will be reelected by the people they duped into thinking that the other party is the reason their communities are failing. Interesting side note, in his famous Bullet or the Ballot speech in 1964, Malcolm X, a black separatist who trusted neither white conservatives nor white liberals, said between Republicans or Democrats he trusted liberal Democrats least. He saw them as being more deceptive displaying their predator fangs but making it look like they were smiling. He wanted the leaders in black communities to be black and be invested in the community they served. He would want today's leadership in black communities to be held accountable for the retched ghetto conditions the residents endure. Guess which party they belong to? The same party of slavery & Jim Crow is still in control, but with smiling faces and plenty of big brother government programs that keep people from becoming government independent. They just give enough to keep their constituents from making it out. Those who do get out and have the audacity to think for themselves and vote for candidates not approved by the Democrat party are swiftly canceled. Out come the disgusting epithets such as Uncle Tom, Boot Licker, Sell Out, Bougie etc. Then it's perfectly alright to call black people names because they're no longer useful to the Dems. They're traitors and need to be shunned and lumped in with the "racist" party. Now the smile morphs into the sharp fangs. So now I have poked the bear. Next comes a bitter diatribe and plenty of hateful accusations of racism and white privilege even though I've said nothing disparaging about anyone other than bad leaders who hurt their constituents through bad leadership. Watch how fast that gets ignored and I get canceled.
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Post by sb on Mar 24, 2023 6:34:46 GMT -5
I've never considered Republicans or conservatives racist. Neither does my lady. The thing we agree on is trump is a lying self centered person. It's pretty obvious seeing his speeches etc. That's a pretty fair assessment. I'd just add that you should check out an Obama speech, any Obama speech, and count the number of times either referred to himself or made it about himself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 8:28:39 GMT -5
Little if none of these "racism" threads actually have to do with real racism. Truth to be told its all about politics. Who is the party solely in charge of majority black communities for decades? Why are so many of those communities failing? Why are they not shining examples of opportunity, prosperity and safety being lead by the leaders of the only party they are expected to follow without question? Why is it that those leaders, both black & white, get rich and choose to live in mansions with their own private security? Why arent those leaders feet held to the fire for failure to serve the people who faithfully keep electing them? Instead they redirect the justifiable anger of their constituents by accusing the party they never elect as the cause of their misery. They use loaded terms like racist and white privilege to stir up mistrust and anger in their base. This insures they will be reelected by the people they duped into thinking that the other party is the reason their communities are failing. Interesting side note, in his famous Bullet or the Ballot speech in 1964, Malcolm X, a black separatist who trusted neither white conservatives nor white liberals, said between Republicans or Democrats he trusted liberal Democrats least. He saw them as being more deceptive displaying their predator fangs but making it look like they were smiling. He wanted the leaders in black communities to be black and be invested in the community they served. He would want today's leadership in black communities to be held accountable for the retched ghetto conditions the residents endure. Guess which party they belong to? The same party of slavery & Jim Crow is still in control, but with smiling faces and plenty of big brother government programs that keep people from becoming government independent. They just give enough to keep their constituents from making it out. Those who do get out and have the audacity to think for themselves and vote for candidates not approved by the Democrat party are swiftly canceled. Out come the disgusting epithets such as Uncle Tom, Boot Licker, Sell Out, Bougie etc. Then it's perfectly alright to call black people names because they're no longer useful to the Dems. They're traitors and need to be shunned and lumped in with the "racist" party. Now the smile morphs into the sharp fangs. So now I have poked the bear. Next comes a bitter diatribe and plenty of hateful accusations of racism and white privilege even though I've said nothing disparaging about anyone other than bad leaders who hurt their constituents through bad leadership. Watch how fast that gets ignored and I get canceled. Don't think you'll get cancelled, there's balance here. After reading DiAngelo's statements in the article, made to a DEI panel no less, I don't think equality among the races is her #1 priority any more. She used to live off her white fragility book royalties and give her talks for free. Now she charging $1500 per appearance. All so familiar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 16:04:31 GMT -5
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,” DiAngelo added. link
Interesting thing for her to say to a panel of DEI consultants, emphasis on 'inclusion'.
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Post by sb on Mar 24, 2023 18:23:57 GMT -5
“What I want to do is create a culture that actually spits out those who are resistant,” DiAngelo added. link
Interesting thing for her to say to a panel of DEI consultants, emphasis on 'inclusion'. And we know exactly who she wants her culture to "spit out." We've had so many examples of people being cancelled for expressing opinions outside of the mainstream narrative over the last few years it's now completely transparent who it is they want to exclude from society. And now, with the revelations of the Twitter files, we also know that the left is complicit with the government to censor people which is the very definition of facsist thinking. It is the very antithesis of the "democracy" that they pretend to be so protective of.
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